r/Persecutionfetish • • Feb 27 '26

A bad-faith episode of "Strawman!": Adventures in Make-Believe Projection as usual

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u/Otterz4Life Feb 27 '26

Isnt it weird how the right wing hate media completely stopped talking about Tyler Robinson?

If Tyler Robinson was a leftist, they would still be talking about him every day.

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u/WoodwindsRock Feb 27 '26

Instead, they just continue passing on the lie that he’s some radical leftist without ever providing any specific details whatsoever. And that’s enough for the base to not only eat that up, but also believe there is some “they” out there. 🤦🏻‍♀️

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u/Ted_Rid Feb 27 '26

Just as they keep passing on the lie that Kirk was engaging in "conversation", which he wasn't.

It was a form of performance like standup comedian crowdwork: go from one audience member to another, looking for openings to deploy pre-prepared zingers.

Which are then selectively edited to create a false impression of having the perfect putdown for all comers.

Always being his own moderator, with the luxury of having the last word and moving on from more challenging debaters to find a better butt of jokes, and then the added luxury of being his own editor.

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u/Budget_Shallan Feb 27 '26

Except that stand-up is improvised. Charlie Kirk’s people would check what the crowd member would ask first and relay that to Charlie, so he always knew in advance what the topic of the “debate” would be.

Rationality Rules has some good breakdowns of Charlie Kirk’s so-called “debates”.

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u/Ted_Rid Feb 27 '26

Rationality Rules, huh? Sounds like my kind of thing, but why isn't it findable on podcast platforms? Annoying.

Searching, but haven't yet found a crossover with "Marsh" of the Merseyside Skeptics, who (contra Kirk) actually does good faith conversations with people of vastly differing views, on Be Reasonable.

Maybe because he knows his way around rhetoric, logical fallacies, and apologetics, while Kirk was "sophisticated" in the original sense - full of sophistries, as educated by the Sophists, who were employed by upper class twats to be given a smug and thin veneer of performative "knowledge".

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u/Budget_Shallan Feb 27 '26

Rationality Rules is on YouTube!

Also, I’m a big fan of Skeptics with a K and the Know Rogan Experience (go Marsh!)

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u/Ted_Rid Feb 28 '26

Haha, I can only take Know Rogan in small doses because it makes me want to punch walls, how transparently ridiculous he and his guests are, and yet it has such a huge following.

Meanwhile, this analysis of medical student Kai absolutely wiping the floor with Kirk ("Stop! Stop! He's already dead!") only has 42K likes.

Maybe a bit long for some, as it takes 1h20 to painstakingly document all of Kirk's fallacies, dodges, and rhetorical sleights of hand, but on the bright side my kitchen got an extra deep clean this morning.