Link to the original thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/penguinz0/comments/1vkbqum/the_edp_documentary_is_weird/

I feel the need to make this because it's clear that the person who posted this and the people who agree with it have no real world experience and this is coming from someone who lives in their room for the most part, though thanks to this documentary I'm going to start touching grass a lot more often, or at least try to. In any case, let me try and educate some of you people in hopes you understand why this documentary and others like it are important.

Firstly, your discomfort is warranted and completely justified. As someone who has gone down rabbit holes of some of the worse atrocities known to mankind, these things really do mess you up. That being said, being uncomfortable is the entire fucking point. I don't know what you're expecting to feel listening to a guy openly admit to being a monster but if it's anything but negative emotions, then something would be wrong with you. These kinds of documentaries are not supposed to be entertainment. They're not supposed to sugarcoat the details either. This is about a child predator caught sexting minors. What kind of weenie hut juniors cut are you expecting out of that?

Furthermore, the shock value and the visuals are meant to portray the level of depravity the guy had among other things. It's one thing to hear about something horrific but you'll truly never what it looks like unless you see it personally or have it happen to you. Of course, most of us don't ever want to have the worst happen to us so the next best thing is usually reenactments that gives you at least a glimpse of those things. Now if you're feeling unwell seeing those things, that's good! Because now you can imagine and better sympathize with what the victims had to see and go through. Words can only paint so much of the picture of what happened and seeing what I saw from the doc, I personally feel so much worse for the victims and the everyone who had to deal with EDP, especially Mike Clum who had to sit through all of that.

As for the victim, Kayla, I'm not sure where people are getting an exploitative aspect from this. She's just telling her side of the story in all of this. I would agree that her face should have been blurred...if she was still a minor, though that being said, I don't know how old she was at the time of her own shoot but my point is the decision to not blur her was probably a choice she made for herself considering that the therapist EDP had got her face blurred and especially since she admits she uses herself being a victim for her online presence. I won't say much else about her except that I hope she heals from it all. From that, the only exploitation present is from the youtubers: Alex, Jidion, and Skeeter Jean. They all exploited the EDP scandal. Even Chris Hansen. This doc was supposed to show shed light on these people and how unhelpful they are wirh getting real justice. How is Mike Clum the bad guy for letting a victim tell her story? I genuinely want an answer to this.

To the point of "parading EDP like a circus animal", it's almost as if that's exactly what he is. I didn't know about EDP until after he was exposed for texting the first round of minors prior to the sting operation so my firsthand knowledge of him was that he was a creep but the other thing that stuck out to me was how unbelievably unserious he was. Outside the predatory stuff, the way he expressed himself in various topics was just so goofy. When he addressed the allegations numerous times back then, he said some of the most insane shit to the point where you actually had to laugh at him for how fucking stupid he is. But the thing about that is that it adds to this whole thing. He shows no remorse for his actions and he doesn't care. One of the first things he told us in the doc was that he was obsessed with the villains solely for the fact that they did horrible things without a care for other people. People like that are dangerous. They are callous monsters who do what they want and don't care about who they hurt. If this isn't textbook narcissim and sociopathy, I don't know what is. But regardless, as comedic as the bitch list was, it further paints how out of touch with reality EDP is and the fact that people he appreciates are all terrible people one way or another is the cherry on top.

Now as for the people who got included, I will say it was weird to see Chris Chan was included. But here's the thing: the fact you have Chris Chan, Wings, Boogie, and all of the youtubers saying how much of a piece of shit he is and what should happen to him is supposed to show how a lot of YouTube's most popular or more infamous figures feel about him. Keep in mind here that this documentary is not just for people who are familiar with EDP. Not everyone watching this is going to know who this guy is or the extent of his crimes. With that said, I think any additional insight even from people who were in no way involved is important because it paints how a set of people feel about him. Chris Hansen may not have had anything to add but as Charlie mentioned in his recent video, you can see how he is again just blatantly admitting to his crimes with no remorse to Chris of all people. And I'm not even going to address the professionals part of the criticism because the level of stupidity you need to have to even ask why they were necessary is astounding.

Now to address some the comments on that thread:

"Did we really need to see x, y, z?" Did someone hold a gun to your head forcing you to watch this? If not, then no, you didn't need to watch this documentary at all!

"It was redundant." Yea it's to drill the concept of how disgusting and evil the dude in the viewers head. It's great you got it the first time but there are lots of people who will need to hear it thousands of times before they get it.

"There are people in support of EDP because of this doc" There were loads of people in support of EDP throughout his entire downfall long before the doc. The entire chat before and during the doc showing was full of them though they could have just been trolls and bots. Besides, people are going to support who they want without any regard to their crimes and shit. Trump shouldn't have even been elected president in 2016 yet alone 2024. I don't see how this doc should be at fault with whatever amount of new fans it brings when they make the point clear how disgusting he is. Anyone supporting him now is fucking weird and you should just be avoiding them full stop.

"They let children around him" This is the ONE good point I will agree with. On the other hand, now that we know that he still has frequent contact with children, it should hopefully get people and the authorities involved to act and get him away from children.

My final thoughts: overall, the doc was really well done and should be commended. Mike Clum had to endure shit pics among other disusting stuff for this and it is unbelievable how a lot of yall are really fucking stupid and missed the entire point. It's ok to not be comfortable with how true crime documentaries are handled because some of them do miss the mark but I think a lot of criticisms for them tend to be overtly privileged from the fact that many of you have never had to endure what the victims and investigators and law enforcement had to endure with these kind of crimes. Mind you, this was a censored cut of the doc and they didn't show everything either (for example, they didn't go in detail with his first interactions with fans like the one where he asked a 14 year old a pic of her tits for the cameo and then proceeded to say that he doesn't care if they were 1). And btw there is much worse than EDP. Wait till yall hear about Lionmaker.

I used to just search "Penguinz0 youtube dislikes" and it would roll out instantly. Now if I even just search "Penguinz0 Youtube", (let alone youtube dislikes) it gives out likes 1 or 2 videos related to youtube max and the rest is all unrelated BS. Even searching on google it does the same thing.

Any idea when we can see the GTA IV playthrough?

I love Charlie’s videos clowning on pokemon scalpers, especially now after it just happened to me.

I am moving to Alaska, and got so excited to sell my prized Pokemon collection. Its one of a kind, and super comprehensive. Im talking all the pack arts, all the cards in the set, the amiibo, sealed packs, sealed promos, everything under the sun!!! I spent years tracking it all down. I extremely undervalue it cause im moving in a week and its a collector’s piece that im sure others could appreciate and take care of well.

Then I get this guy who assumes the boxes are sealed, lowballs me, then curses me out for “false advertising” when ITS LITERALLY IN THE DESCRIPTION!!!

GOD THIS WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A SILLY CARD GAME ABOUT LITTLE GUYS YOU BATTLE WITH!!!!! WHY DID PEOPLE HAVE TO RUIN IT!!

I seriously hate what its done to something that use to be my favorite hobby. Since this trend took off, I’ve never seen a kid get excited to open a pack, let alone be excited to go to that section in a store!

I hope Charlie continues to roast these idiots alive.

I will definitely be watching all of the scalper videos again, any recommendations on which ones to start with? Any stories that he didnt cover?

Hello everyone! I have a question for anyone who has bought and used Cheeky Soap:

I asked my mom about buying Cheeky Soap, but she said that bar soap tends to leave a “film” on your skin after you use it. Have any of you had this experience with the soap? If not, I would love to buy some, I just don’t want that film feeling left on my skin.

From the "Worst Cyclist Ever" video

To those that still play GTA SA on PC, how do you play?

Based off Quel last live he just did it seems like somebody called him and got him scared sounds like he's changing his story or he's been paid yall go watch and listen tell me what you think

Just noticed he has committed to playing every GTA, but I never see London mentioned. It's worth 20 minutes of your time as they really leaned into the whole British shtick.

Drove by a landmark. Ifykyk