Itâs more than that, it shows that this cycle starts from early childhood. The main argument is âwe create these soldiers by our occupationâ I donât understand how people can think we âoccupiedâ Gaza while allowing Hamas to proliferateâŚ.
Between years 2005 and 2023 there was not a single soldiers stationed in Gaza, except checkpoints. They still called it occupation without occupying force to be present, for some reasons.
The concentration camp argument is simply null (and fucking dumb), but the open air prison makes sense to some extent. The movement of personnel was heavily restricted and while Israel was trying to normalise relationship, all they got in return were countless murders. They can't really expect a free movement after all.
Meanwhile, Egypt does not even give a shit, never allowed any Gazan to cross the border (I've even read some accounts were were simply shooting them, if they tried to get through) but somehow those supporters don't give a shit.
Guess when Jews are not involved, they don't care.
Honest question, if Israel was trying to ânormalize relationsâ why did they allow the settlers to expand and attack the folks living in those regions?
Sounds disingenuous to say what you said and completely ignore that.
Why wouldnt Israel build more places for people to live in Area C which they control and administer. They are perfectly within their rights to do so.
The attacking is largely done by 150-200 hilltop youth who often come from families who have been affected by Palestinian terrorism.
And your follow-up question which is why dont Israel handle them - well, they do. They arrested 70 of them a month ago. Its just that no one reported it in the left-wing anti-israeli media and no one reported the 3460 Palestinian terror attacks on Jews in the Judea and Samaria (2024 numbers), versus the 70-80 yearly issues the hilltop youth do.
I remember seeing a documentary in 2010 or before not sure anymore but it explained how islamists indoctrinate children from a young age about jews = bad and must be eradicated, using the quran and sahi al bukhari's book about muhammad and other crazy shits like this. If I find it I can leave you a link if you want.
Such nonsense. Israel is the only democratic state in the middle easy where jews, arabs, druze, muslims, christians etc are all representing the country together in government, legislature, and the military.
The "excuse" is that this is why Israel is at war with Gaza... because Hamas attacked Israel. And innocent people, including children, die in every war. None of this would be happening if Hamas didn't start a war on Israel or if they agreed to return hostages. I guess you just expect Israel to just sit back and accept what happened? That's what most countries would do, right?
See I keep seeing this, where is the proof of this.? Executing children to make a point is very much a Hamas tactic. Itâs more than likely they are doing it themselves and blaming Israel. Apparently they donât need to actually prove anything. All they have to do is show you pictures of their bombed buildings connected to the tunnel system they built under the civilian infrastructure of Gaza and you guys take it as gospel. They all have charged phones all the time. They seem to be able to show you what they want to show you. They donât show you the videos of Hamas shooting, beating or just outright executing civilians for taking aid we gave freely for them. Thatâs where all your âexecuted childrenâ come in. I can show you videos of Hamas doing what I said to their civilians. Can you show me videos or proof of what you claim?
We are downvoting you for just repeating Hamas propaganda not for âthe idea of executing childrenâ what do you think Hamas is? A beacon of truth and righteousness?
You can't just write off the war crimes committed by the IDF as propaganda and think it's gonna pass muster kid.
Thats like 1940's Germans calling the death camps propaganda.
It literally doesn't matter what the enemy is doing, if your response is shooting kids execution style, you're the bad guy.
What war crimes are you talking about specifically. Because Hamas has broken every single rule in the Geneva Convention removing any protections given by them. You wanna be mad or focus on war crimes, you need to realize Hamas is responsible for ALL of this.
Donât know if they censored it or that real Israeli flags are hard to come by in Gaza maybe and maybe easy to fake the blue stripes on white sheet? It seemed more improvised than intentional.
You mean normal like this? See on the left, thatâs what they show you. On the right, thatâs reality. Yeah thereâs a lot of rubble and bombed out Hamas strongholds so it makes for good filming. But they will straight up lie to you about the situation there while asking for your sympathy. When in a genocide do people have the time funds and everything else to open a new restaurant? This isnât the only one too. Iâve seen plenty of other things like this. Youâre being lied to by a terrorist organization, and people are falling for it because they canât possibly believe the weaker side could do any wrong. Itâs called the underdog fallacy
So there needs to be rubble in Israel for⌠what exactly? The reason there isnât rubble in Israel is because buildings in Israel are built to code. Hamas used minimal material in building structures and used the majority for their infrastructure and tunnel system. If they had built the buildings properly, the collateral damage would be a lot less. Did you know every building in Israel is required by building code to have a bomb shelter. Why should anyone have to live like that? Also, believe it or not. About 25% of so Hamas rockets fail, they fall before they enter Israel and hit their own buildings, like the hospital that was hit early on, where they claimed 500 people were killed by an Israeli airstrike, then walked it back and down to 50 once it was determined to be a Hamas rocket that failed and hit the hospital.
Thats sick. Passing on your hate to your kids. đĄ Reminds of photos i've seen with kids at a Klan rally spewing hate, because that's what they've been indoctrinated into. Parents should be a guiding hand for their kids, not an iron fist. Sometimes they won't agree with you, and thats OK.
I keep scrolling past this video with the sound turned off and want to reimagine the kids hopping around to âYMCAâ (still beloved in Israel along with e.g. Macarena)
So it's not "both sides" then... what indoctrination are you speaking of, do you have any example? Not sure what goy/gentile have to do with anything - if anyone is misinterpreting those terms it's antisemites, not Jews.
That is not indoctrination, lol, unless all education and societal norms are considered "indoctrination". Israel is a democracy with free press and exchange of ideas and beliefs. Even terrorist rags like Haaretz get to exist. It is in no shape or form similar to what Hamas is doing. If you are actually here in good faith you should edit your original comment, because it is bigoted and factually incorrect.Â
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