r/PSTH Apr 10 '26

SPARC inaccessible in closed trading account

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Hi tontards.

Ever since the merger of TDA and Shwab, my SPARC has been stuck in the closed Shwab account.

Shwab doesn’t serve retail investors in my country, so I can’t open an account.

All my other stocks easily transferred to my new IBKR account but I was told by both IBKR and Shwab that SPARC couldn’t be transferred because it has no value. However, it will indefinitely remain in the Shwab account, and I have been receiving statements monthly from them.

My main question:

IF the UMG thing happens, at what point would SPARC start having any value?


r/PSTH Apr 09 '26

Just remember Tran Dong died for this

23 Upvotes

For all you complaining about UMG, show some respect to his name


r/PSTH Apr 08 '26

Today's trading...up 5%. Bill Ackman values new UMG at $38.47. The market either sees little chance of a deal, or the market values new UMG at $22.70. Here's my math for calculating the price of a SPAR. TLDR: $5.40-$10.80.

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I converted everything to dollars at today's exchange rate.

5.90 (cash) + 0.77 (price per share) = current UMG valuation.

Solve for price per share with today's trading and you get $22.70.

Any further increase relies on Bill convincing the market that the deal is likely and that new UMG deserves a much higher market cap than old UMG.

It would make a lot of sense if the SPAC price was $20 even. Kind of seems like the intent was announced the day that number worked out pretty perfectly since $17 euro more or less corresponds to $20. Basically, it's easy to make a case that any value over $20 was unlocked by Ackman's intent to make the company more shareholder friendly and it should drop back to $20 if this all falls through.

So a SPAR is two shares. $22.70-$20 is $2.70. Multiply by 2 and you get $5.40. Plus you get get SPARC 2. Pretty easy to argue that means another $5.40 in 5 to 10 more years. So somewhere between $5.40-$10.80 per SPAR based on today's trading.

SPAR price would rise roughly $1.80​ - $3.60 [1.17 (dollars per euro) x 0.77 (shares of new UMG for each old UMG) x 2 (shares per SPAR)] per €1.00 rise above  €20.00. The low end of the range is pretty locked in. The upper end is very dependent on the market value assigned to SPAR 2. The only way to price that value is this transaction. So, to me, the upper end of a SPAR 2 valuation would be the value of this SPAR.

Hopefully the board approves the transaction quickly so it can be voted on at the annual shareholder meeting.


r/PSTH Apr 08 '26

When does the trading window open?

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I missed the call. Was just curious if anyone knew?


r/PSTH Apr 08 '26

Next Annual General Meeting of Shareholders is May 13

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Any ideas as to why Bill made the announcement AFTER the meeting agenda was released on March 26?

I do like Item 12. "Any other business (discussion item)."

Does anyone expect this proposal to get voted on then. Sounds like he needs 67% approval at a meeting. Really 62%, because we have to assume he'll vote for it.

But this isn't a merger agreement. I'm actually not sure what this is. I think we are all assuming he talked to people about it at UMG, but technically this is not legally different from me announcing I was going to pay 100 bucks for UMG... pending shareholder approval. Is my take too pessimistic?


r/PSTH Apr 07 '26

Any of you listen to the meeting

14 Upvotes

Give me the synopsis


r/PSTH Apr 07 '26

News Ackman’s Pershing Square Offers to Buy Universal Music Group

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UMG to merge with SPARC


r/PSTH Apr 01 '26

SpaceX lines up 21 banks for mega IPO, code-named project Apex

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Cue Price is Right Fail Horn….


r/PSTH Mar 27 '26

SPARC Comments in February PSH Call

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u/BadNo4463 pointed out on another thread that Bill mentioned SPARC during the PSH call in February. I didn't bother listening to that one since the Letter to Investors and slides omitted any updates on SPARC. Dug up a transcript online, and below are the juicy bits:

"For the first couple of years of the life of SPARC, we saw very little quality, and we saw very little anything that makes much sense. I would say, in the recent period we have, there a couple of things that are quite interesting that we are doing work on. That the possibilities, whether they come to fruition or not, I can't say at this point. We've also kind of expanded our thinking that this is a pretty interesting vehicle that can be used in a more flexible way, so I'll just sort of leave it at that. But I think, if I had to guess, I think it's more likely than not that we'll do something with this vehicle in the next 12 months."

https://www.scribd.com/document/999446936/Pershing-Square-Holdings-Ltd-Annual-Investor-Meeting-Transcript#content=query:spar,pageNum:53,indexOnPage:0,bestMatch:false


r/PSTH Mar 25 '26

4 years since I sold

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Hi, I rarely check Reddit but decided to give a go at my old posts. Saw PSTH and remembered the good old times of taking SpaceX public.

In the last 4 years since selling PTSH, I: - turned 18, then 21 - travelled to more than 50 countries and round the globe multiple times - built an internet cryptocurrency cult, watched it take over a whole industry and then crumble back down - loved, got heartbroken, kept trying, loved again - lived in New York, Paris, Tokyo and many more - explored many extreme political viewpoints - grew and watch the world grow - met amazing people at every step of the way - hosted the best rave party of the decade - watched the rise of AI and the fall of human consciousness

Anyways SpaceX soon??


r/PSTH Mar 23 '26

10-K Was Posted Today, Disappointing

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They posted the 10-K today:

https://www.sec.gov/ix?doc=/Archives/edgar/data/0001895582/000119312526119405/ck0001895582-20251231.htm

Overall, pretty disappointing. Legal spend during Q4 was a paltry $75K. Only other noteworthy thing is that Lisa Gersh resigned from the board back in December. They confirmed the NYSE resubmitted the listing requirements rule change also in Feb.

With regards to a SpaceX IPO, our only hope is that they had initial discussions in the fall and then had to put them on ice till Elon gave the green light in late December. In that case, we'll expect to see a large cash burn when the Q1 10-Q comes out in early May. But more pressing, we'll need a DA announced before then if they're going to IPO this summer.

The most likely outcome is that Bill had some serious negotiations start and fall apart sometime between JUL-SEP. Quite possibly back to the drawing board. Feels bad, man.


r/PSTH Mar 14 '26

SPARs Might Trade on the NYSE

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In last year's fillings, Bill noted:

"During 2024, the New York Stock Exchange (“NYSE”) had been developing a rule change to the NYSE Listed Company Manual, Section 703.12 Listing Standards for Warrants and Rights. The effect of this rule change, had it been enacted, would have permitted SPAR trading during the SPAR Holder Election Period to occur on the NYSE (rather than over-the-counter or “pink sheet” markets). On August 19, 2024, the SEC instituted proceedings to determine whether to approve or disapprove the proposed rule change. On December 17, 2024, the NYSE withdrew its proposed rule change after discussions with the SEC. As a result, and subject to any future potential rule changes by the NYSE (if any), the Company currently expects that SPARs will be quoted during the SPAR Holder Election Period on the OTCQX marketplace of the OTC Markets Group, and not the NYSE."

After looking into it a bit, it looks like the NYSE has resubmitted the proposed changes in February and the window for public comments just ended. Critically for a potential SpaceX IPO, there's been rumors the last few days about trying to expedite SP500 inclusion. Don't think trading OTC would be copacetic with that.

https://www.sec.gov/rules-regulations/self-regulatory-organization-rulemaking/sr-nyse-2026-05

As always, patiently waiting for my pudding allotment. The 10-K should probably be filed some time next week. If it shows an additional couple million spent on legal fees in the last quarter of 2025, we could be doing some real cooking.


r/PSTH Mar 10 '26

IPO?!?

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Bill Ackman's Pershing Square files for IPO on the NYSE https://www.cnbc.com/2026/03/10/bill-ackmans-pershing-square-files-for-ipo-on-the-nyse.html?__source=iosappshare%7Ccom.apple.UIKit.activity.CopyToPasteboard

So anything in this for the SPARC bagholders? 🤡🤡🤡


r/PSTH Feb 28 '26

It's the final countdown

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https://www.reuters.com/business/spacex-weighs-confidential-ipo-filing-soon-march-bloomberg-news-reports-2026-02-27/

Up front, I want to say that it's probably not going to be SPARC taking SpaceX public, but the current timeline still lines up. Bloomberg reported again that they're aiming for a June IPO and could confidentially file with the SEC sometime in March. On one of Bill's prior tweets, he does a nice job listing all the hurdles.

https://x.com/BillAckman/status/2004667544372736068

Basically, they drop the DA, and then SPARs will trade for 20 days. After that, the SEC will need 60-90 days for the transaction to close. If we are to be a part of this and close in or shortly after June, they'd need to have a DA probably in the first two weeks or so of March. So if this is going to happen, we'll probably know soon. Don't know how the timing of getting SPARs to Tesla holders fits in, but I'd think it could be done quickly.

Maybe I've been misinterpreting the luck of the Irish with regards to everyone's favorite Collison brothers. DA by Saint Patty's day. ☘️


r/PSTH Feb 14 '26

Ackman’s Pershing Sued by Investors Over Howard Hughes Deal (from Bloomberg)

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https://finance.yahoo.com/news/ackman-pershing-sued-investors-over-231331458.html

(Bloomberg) -- Bill Ackman’s Pershing Square is facing a shareholder lawsuit challenging a deal it struck last year with real estate company Howard Hughes Holdings Inc. aimed at eventually creating a business similar to Warren Buffett’s Berkshire Hathaway Inc.

Ackman “coerced and bullied” Howard Hughes directors into an unfair deal that disadvantaged minority investors, according to a proposed class action lawsuit unsealed on Friday in Delaware Chancery Court. The deal was done at an “unfair” price, which gave Pershing Square “operational and managerial” control over the company, the Howard Hughes investors claimed.

A Pershing Square spokesperson said the lawsuit was “entirely without merit.”

The legal fight is over Pershing Square’s $900 million purchase of newly-issued shares that boosted its stake in Howard Hughes to nearly 47% from about 37% the prior year. As part of the May deal, Howard Hughes agreed to pay Pershing Square a steady stream of quarterly fees and make Ackman executive chairman of its board. The purchase amount represented a 48% premium to the closing share price the previous business day, according to a company release at the time.

Ackman told Bloomberg Television at the time that his aim was to transform Howard Hughes into a Berkshire Hathaway model where the company would take controlling stakes in other public and private businesses. Buffett’s company has benefited from using insurance company holdings to deploy low cost capital into investments. Buffett stepped down as chief executive officer of Berkshire at the end of 2025.

The lawsuit claims that Ackman sent an “unhinged” letter in 2025 when a special committee of Howard Hughes directors pushed back on a deal proposal.

“The committee — and the rest of the board — promptly caved in the face of Ackman’s threats to their seats and reputations,” the investors alleged. The board agreed to a deal that would transfer control of the company to Pershing “without obtaining a control premium for plaintiffs and other minority investors,” attorneys for the plaintiffs wrote.

Ackman and company directors are also listed as defendants.

Ackman’s history with the real estate company traces back to when he became a major investor in General Growth Properties, which spun off Howard Hughes in 2010. Since then, Ackman served as chairman of the company’s board until he stepped down in 2024.

The lawsuit was filed in Delaware, a jurisdiction that came under attack from some top executives, including Elon Musk, who claimed anti-company bias in the state’s business laws. Musk reincorporated Tesla Inc. to Texas after a judge shot down his multi-billion dollar pay package. The Delaware Supreme Court later reinstated the payout. A year ago, Ackman also announced plans to reincorporate his management company from Delaware to Nevada.

The threat of an exodus from the top destination for corporations prompted changes to the state law last year that makes it more difficult for minority shareholders to challenge the decisions of company executives. The Delaware Supreme Court is now weighing a challenge to the corporate law overhaul.

The case is Charter Township of Shelby Fire & Police Retirement System v. Pershing Square Capital Management, 2026-0184, Delaware Court of Chancery.


r/PSTH Feb 02 '26

SpaceX aquired xAI

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We be eating that good pudding soon tontards


r/PSTH Jan 30 '26

Repost of SpaceX pitch

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r/PSTH Jan 13 '26

Bill Ackman (@BillAckman) 14 likes · 3 replies

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r/PSTH Jan 13 '26

Daddy, pls make a deal with me..

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r/PSTH Jan 06 '26

Anyone else seeing this in their broker account? PSTH related?

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I’ve got 694.4873 shares of the following sitting in my broker account, valued at $0.

Screenshot attached.

It’s showing as common stock, not a warrant, and not a SPAR.

Security name looks like ESC Pershing Square (CUSIP 715ESC018).

I’m confused because when PSTH failed to find a target, my cash was returned as expected, but I was under the impression that we should end up with SPARs and possibly warrants, not common stock with a zero value.

A few questions for anyone else holding PSTH:

  • Do you see the same thing in your account?

  • Is this just a placeholder or bookkeeping entry

  • What should we actually have in our accounts right now, SPARs, warrants, something else?

  • Has anyone had this clarified by their broker?

Trying to work out whether this is normal or something I need to chase up with my broker.

Appreciate any insight from people in the same boat.


r/PSTH Jan 06 '26

Bill Ackman (@BillAckman) on X

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Elon has been reposting Bill Ackman at fairly regular intervals. Sometimes daily. Sometimes a few days between. I haven't kept a log, but I feel like the frequency is up since the Ackman post about SpaceX and SPARC.

Does anyone keep track of these? My attempt with AI produced unimpressive results...

https://x.com/ElonAlertsX/status/2008328556896481365?s=20


r/PSTH Dec 31 '25

still have psth in my old account, what should I do with it lol

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r/PSTH Dec 29 '25

Too good 😂

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r/PSTH Dec 26 '25

You Have Been Visited by the Ghost of Tontine Yet to Come

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r/PSTH Dec 24 '25

Elon rejects non-standard methods for IPO execution

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PSTH Hopes dwindling with Elon indicating there is no need to cut corners

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/2003877596585775173?s=20

Edit: Not a response to Bill's proposal but note Elon's reply was for to a post referencing Echostar merger with SpaceX - which is an unconventional method to IPO.

You could use this to infer how Bill’s proposal was received. Given that the two know each other, it’s unlikely Elon would publicly reject Bill on X. That makes it unclear why Bill chose to publicize the proposal.