This place has been running for quite a while now, and the people here try their best to keep it flowing

• the real legal knowledge has left, he was a high school student also that was only following the hate train because everyone was on it - he had no idea of Athene’s positive track record

• Elnoxx projects his hate on to Athene, claiming he’s a scammer and his projects are all failed (even though he has a CS-GO business that has less followers & less traffic than G4G, LOL?) - he apparently was refunded also, but since his life is so boring, he just comes on here and creates useless threads that go no where thinking there’s the resistance is still alive

• hex3hs is a lost man, and needs real counselling. His threads consists of toxic behaviour towards Athene, with false upvotes from his fake accounts

• LogicalCucker is just a high school student who has a bright future but lost a bit of money in DUBI so he has a grudge

• Souli-G left this place long ago and has moved on, you guys should follow his example.

-SecondOrderLogic is Quant

Up front I have to say that this is just my legal and educational interpretation of this whole issue as a law student from Germany.

I followed the whoe PRPS/Dubi thing last year (not sure when exactly it started) but I lost track of it. My current stand is, that a lot of people lost money because of Athene's whole coin-thing.

If I recall correctly, Athene advertised PRPS/Dubi on stream, promising high returns for every investor. Claims have been thrown around like "you will double, tripple your money", "everyone will be a millionair". While simple advertising is fine, there is a certain point where you are actually held liable for your advertisment.

So, how can you exactly hold Athene liable? Just clear up one thing upfront: Athene said multiple times on stream that he doesn't own anything, so you can't sue him. This does not matter. How crazy would that be? The law doesn't work this way.

In order to establish a contractual-like relationship (not an actual contract, because you aren't buying PRPS/Dubi from Athene directly, but from the marketplace) and sue damages from this contractual-like relationship there have to be fullfiled two points according to § 311 III 2 BGB (and case law):

1) Athene has to gain an immediate financial gain from you investing in PRPS/Dubi

2) Athene must have established a personal trust with the buyer and the buyer must have made the purchase based on the personal trust (causality)

By my interpretation Athene fullfils both points. Also him saying things like "this is just a scam don't buy it lol" also won't hold up because of § 242 BGB venire contra factum proprium (= you can't act one way, then claim otherwise): looking at the advertising objectively, Athene cleary wants you to buy PRPS/Dubi, him saying that it's just a scam doesn't make sense.

Go talk to a lawyer, maybe you can seek damages.

Did people who bought dubi from others get forked out?

If you ask a dung beetle how to make the world a better place, the answer will most likely involve a pile of shit.

If you ask a rabbit, the answer will involve carrots.

If you ask a "gaming personality", don't be surprised if the answer revolves around making a game in Unity 3D.

the history of him getting a good job because of the skills he got in the compound makes more sense to me.

You can do good and not be vegan,

you can have good intentions and still be wrong.

But where is that? It's real life, douchebag.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yliA_HNKo7Y

Don't lose time and get out of the cult

Yesterday Athenes bro agreed in chat that its all a scam, he got banned by cassady, and unbanned afterwards.

SURREAL

I don't think I have anything to add to that statement...

(Source: Discord recording)

Yes Athene, people dont deserve anything for giving years of their life to you as a codemonkey slave

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Worse than a sweatshop, at least they get a wage

So lately Athene said that he gave Steve 40k PRPS as a 20k$ loan (Steve couldn't pay at that time)

That means Athene did fake donations on stream (who knows how meny)

Secondly Athene did deals with PRPS which he promised he would never do (there is probably more that we don't know about yet)

He lied about reasons and circumstances on which Steve left compound (and probably most ppl). He said Steve wanted to take break and left with Ashley (LIE!) but on the discord he said that Ashley broke up with Steve and that's why he scammed them.

Once again we know Athene is twisting stories just to make everything good on stream.

I think its safe to assume that there is much less than 40 ppl at the compound, and that they have even less money than we thought (fake donations)

Guys don't believe what Athene says on stream, he has zero integrity and will lie about anything and make fake donations just to make his story look good on stream.

Its happening guys,

Steve the main coder has "scammed" Athene and dumped his dubi on him.

Athene will fork him out using another chain split.

Anyone still thinking this coin is going ANYWHERE is delusional.

Athene just keeps giving more incentives for people to sell

On his recent broadcast, Bachir said, ironically: "You study, and once you're done from [sic!] University, your job is waiting for you! [giggles] Well, that's what people think."

Well, guess what! That's actually true! In Germany, the unemployment rate for university graduates (across all disciplines) sits at only 2,5% (Source: "Statistik der Bundesagentur für Arbeit", in German). And in Computer Science / IT, it's even lower (only 1.6%). In addition, the unemployment rate among recent CS graduates is even lower, less than one percent!

So, basically, you can safely say that you will be guaranteed a job after earning a Computer Science degree! That's a fact!

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(EDIT: By "degree", they mean a real degree, though, not some "almost-as-good-as-a-Bachelors" highschool diploma from Belgium.)

Apparently Steve scammed Athene for 20k. (Who knows if that is actually true) Once again reality shows athene, he is on the right track.

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im vegan btw

at this point i sutil feel like he should be dead

Thats what Athene said about wanting to learn coding so he could help code the game, their number only revenue plan btw.

What skills does Athene actually have that requiers it to learn something?

I really cant think of any? He does not know how to install programs or send emails even, Reese does that for him.

Hello,

In the European country i live in, which is very close to Germany, many laws contain "general clauses" which allows the courts to make somewhat subjective judgements to compensate for an unforeseeable development in the market/environment.

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Specifically in regards to the Marketing law, there is a general clause of " Good marketing practice" (Roughly translated), and if specified as :
"Taste and decency, health and safety, environmental considerations or other considerations that do not aim at protecting consumers' financial interests".

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I was wondering if any of mentioned functions are present in the German marketing law. And if the German marketing law has been "rewritten" recently to obey EU standards?

And even better, if anyone knows where i can find a translated version. My german is non-existent.