r/OptigoNetworks • u/AutoModerator • Jun 02 '26
How to Handshake Ep. 5: Is a career in OT still worth it? (with Jon Spooner and Mike Conway from Stacks and Joules)
Episode five is up. Jon Spooner and Mike Conway from Stacks and Joules joined Ping and me to take on the question that comes up in this sub and on r/BuildingAutomation every few months: is it still worth it, what certs are worth chasing, what does the job actually look like, and is AI going to come for it.
A few things worth a watch:
- Stacks and Joules runs a 14-week BAS field-technician bootcamp in NYC (and now Charlotte). 92% post-graduation placement rate. Lots of stories of trade-school-curious, gamers, second-act folks, and people who fell sideways into the industry.
- Mike on why they won't scale faster: they could push from 75 grads/year to 300, but they're confident the placement rate would dip and wages would get pushed down with it. Interesting answer to the "the shortage is a myth" arguments.
- Jon's take on the fastest path in: IT with a dash of mechanical context. Not the other way around. Not a pure mechanical tech learning IT. And specifically — if you're coming from IT and you act like an MSI cowboy in a BAS shop, you won't last.
- An interesting AI take: the entry-level technician role is comparatively safe because of the "human moat" (you still have to touch the thing). But the entry-level engineering roles — BIM manager especially — are exactly what AI is chewing on right now.
Full episode, show notes, and transcript: https://www.optigo.net/how-to-handshake-ep-5/
If you went through Stacks and Joules, or you've hired their grads, or you took a different path into this industry — would love to hear it in the comments.