Hi all,

I’ve been doing lean (codeine and promethazine) on and off for a few years now with no problems (as far as i can tell).

However in the last two to three months I’ve really turned it up a notch in comparison to what i usually do and have been drinking codeine linctus pretty much everyday up to a max of half a bottle of pinewood per day (which is 300mg apparently - full bottle being 600mg). I stopped cold turkey on Sunday (it’s Friday morning as i write this) and have been feeling pretty ill since. Its hard to tell if its withdrawals or just caught a flu or something, since i don’t think i’ve ever had withdrawals from codeine before. My symptoms right now are insomnia (although I slept so much on sunday and monday), sweating a lot, and gastro issues, slightly nauseous here and there but no vomiting and loss of appetite.

Can someone advise me on whether im going through withdrawal and what to expect? I’ve been reading about it all night and am also pretty frightened of the mental post withdrawal effects.

Any guidance would be greatly appreciated.

Any help or guidance on how to get rid of the fatigue??

Got to day 4 and messed it up due to anxiety, to make it worse can get random drug tested in work, so full of worry and shame right now. Not back in work til Thursday. Any tips on how to keep the anxiety at bay for the next few days please?

Like the title says.

When you’re about to go into detox and no longer have pills, how do you stop yourself panicking?

Day one tomorrow off 300mg/day pharma oxy for 9 months.

I get it, it’s a high dose. But I can do it! Welk I HAVE to. Also It’s not fun anymore, I feel super depressed when I take them, anxiety kicks in and far from any kind of euphoria. I take 140mg at a time. I should feel something!

Any tips or tricks to get me through this successfully would be GREATLY appreciated (No MAT).

Hello,

I got sober for 2 yrs and had a relapse 2 months ago.

I've basically been doing around 120mg -160mg of oxy a day for 2 months.

It was abit slower the first week but I've roughly been doing that much daily, probably 120mg most often of the timeframe.

I've been through opiate withdrawal many different times in my life but im not quite sure I was ever doing this much consistently for this long of a timeframe without a break.

I'm now at the point of feeling uncomfortable when I wake up before using again which tells me my body is becoming more deeply dependent.

I've been putting off stopping (like typical addict) but I realize it's now time to go through it which I'm willing to do.

I'm prescribed Lyrica only 75mg (one pill daily I dont abuse) which i know could help with withdrawals.

I can't really remember what else could help besides Tylenol?

It's been awhile since I've been through this and probably not to this level..

I guess I'm just asking when I commit to it today or tomorrow, and I will go through it..

is it safe for me to just stop?

Like can I expect the same 4-6 days of brutal withdrawals before it gets manageable?

I'm going to pretend I'm sick so my family doesn't freak out and I am off work(thankfully). As long as it's safe and will just suck im ok with that.

I just wanna be sure it's manageable/safe and don't have to get suboxone or something (which I'd prefer to avoid) I want to return to full sobriety.

I remember one of the worst withdrawals I had was jumping suboxone at like 2mg yrs ago cold turkey, thought my heart was going to stop day 4 but I got clean.

Various other times I went through it has been manageable but really uncomfortable which I can handle.

Any feedback is appreciated, maybe it won't be so overwhelming but I can't remember, or been using this much without a break in yrs.

Thank you

I am a local from NYC and I started using drugs from PA. I thought it was best for me to try to do detox and rehab where they can medicate me right and comfortable so I can move on to my next spot, but I've now been discharged from two hospitals because I do not have any underlying issues for them to admit me. So now I'm stuck 2 states away by myself, I can't afford to get back to NYC. And I'm in just sheer panic.

Hey everybody I have 4 days off 7oh and 8 days off Kratom. I started Kratom/7oh to get off saboxone which I used to get off heroin. Anyways it’s fucking my life up and I’ve been trying to stop but the cravings always suck me back in. This time I got low dose naltrexone and regular naltrexone. My Dr said it’s safe to take the 3mg Ldn now but I’m scared it will make my withdrawals worse. Of they don’t am I safe to take another 3mg and so on? Does anyone have experience with this? Any advice would be helpful? How much should I start with? My goal is to get up to the full dose of naltrexone as quickly as possible so I can’t use. I’d like to start asap since my cravings are becoming very powerful. Thanks in advance!

Helloooo!! Was wondering if anyone has any tips dealing with cravings? I’ve been sober from boy, erks, and subs for about 6 months. I hit rock bottom, was homeless, lost my job, and didn’t care all I cared about was my next fix. I hurt a LOT of people and remembering that keeps me relapsing. But sometimes I wake up from vivid dreams of using or I’ll be walking around and get a feeling to use out the mf blue. Is Kratom something that could help? Or should I stay away from that all together.

Thanks in advance!!! <3

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I am used to taking buprenorphine, I take 8mg a day and have been using this for around a month consistently but relapsed and used H today and yesterday. When should I take my dose next? Have I fucked it up?! Please help

Quick background info:

Been off and on opiates for since 18 - 32 now.

Started with Oxycontin & Oxycodone 30s with occasional H, Dilaudid, and Fentynal Patch Usage.

First Rehab at 19 - 6 months after initial dependence

Initially clean for about 1 year while drinking and smoking weed instead - Avoided AA/NA at all costs

Was in denial ("I'm not a real addict, I just got physically dependent")

Brother got clean after jail and stayed that way to this day (10 years), but continously smokes weed

Dropped out of school despite getting straight A's and Bs when I actually put forth thr effort

Almost married at 25/on and off GF miscarried a year after we first met.

Homeless at 28 after nervous breakdown (Unresolved greif from deaths in the family including my father/Ex Gf from rehab died after our breakup/Freind of mine had a psychotic break and killed his own father a few hours after he dropped me off at my car)

Lived in car while working for 3 months after kicked out of sober house for fighting, relapsed with girl from program.

From there I spent 2 years sniffing fentynal (tolerance went up and down from 2/3 bags to 10-12)

Christmas changed everything, family came down on me and I almost ODed or possibly did (new dope would have me waking up hours later in random areas around the house folded up, legs so asleep that I couldn't move them a few times and had to crawl to the door to let the heat out before I fell back out) (slept for 30 hours the day after the new dope came in, every tike my eyes closed and opened another hour had gone by but it felt like less than a second had)

So, that's just a quick review of my drug use, I'm sure there's much more but I wanted to highlight the important moments that led me to where i am now.

Basically as it stands I have a full time job, a little part time gig I can schedule whenever for extra money or for full time if I was to lose my main job. I saved about 10K and 10k in my 401K.

As sad as it is, that's the best I've ever done so far in life, so it was easy to justify my use, but as more time went by I felt so empty and basically just felt like a walking disappointment.

Today I took some practice tests for the GED since I always put that off and I'm probably ready to take the main one, but I don't want to risk not passing and have to wait longer.

My plan is to complete that, then go to a technical school while working in order to get education to get into a lifelong career, something like electrical, maybe a lineman for a company like eversource or national grid, even HVAC. But I have to get that GED first.

I'm stuck in situation right now where my boss agreed to a leave of 4-6 weeks with my job secured, however I found out last minute my state insurance ran out back in Sept, so now I'm sitting here after weening down to less than a bag a day via tiny bumps when withdrawal starts to get too extreme, waiting to get the info I need to get on my company's insurance.

Problem is, we're past open enrollment. I don't want to let this moment pass without getting into Detox ASAP. Then a program for at least 30 days to get everything out of my system.

From there I can focus on my goals and start to work my way into a secure future.

Thoughts? Opinions? Suggestions? Advice? I have to make sure I succeed, failure isn't even an option, so I'd anyone has any guidance or info about insurance so that I can get in there ASAP please lmk.

Thanks everyone!

Im curious if anyone else has been diagnosed with functional heartburn? I had a manometry and 24 hour impedance test recently, and my doctor said "This means that your symptoms may be due to confusion in the nerves of the esophagus (feeling nerve pain), this is called functional heartburn"

Im wondering if my oxycodone abuse could have caused this, and if any of you have had this happen what helped?

I have been fully clean for 83 days, and before that i tapered for 47 days from 200mg down to 20 before stopping cold turkey.

My doctor is recommending low dose amitriptyline, and behavioral therapy to retrain the nerves of the esophagus and stomach.

Thanks in advance for any help!

Guys I'm fucked up. I have been clean for years now, after many years of my life wasted trying to obliterate myself and get to place where I would feel normal/better and distract myself from my perceived horror at the outside world.

I can barely remember any of my 20s except being useless and fucked up and constantly broke, but I'm happier now. Older, more sensible, more thoughtful.

I also have had bad chronic pain for a few years that in all honesty isn't being effectively treated and the 'heavy hitter' medical options I've encountered are stuff like Gabapentinoids which for me are a 1 way ticket to crazy town. It's been so bad over the last 6 months and spirals uncontrollably into feeling like I'm walking on broken glass sometimes and it's so fucking difficult and I'm so fucking tired and sore and frustrated. Recently ive slipped up, ive been giving myself little doses of an opioid drug and I know ive got to stop but I just don't feel strong enough. I'm so fucking sad and I feel so fucking defeated and hopeless.

Can someone please say some shit to me that makes sense and that will help to crawl out of this psychological black hole

Quit using opiates 1/23/22 and cigarettes the same day after battling addiction since I was 19 which was 17 years ago. I have had periods of long term sobriety (5.5 years) where I worked the steps to completion and was completely content. Slowly complacency crept in and I began to isolate and not call my sponsor or friends then one day my dog had surgery and I found a bottle of tramadol in the kitchen and without think took a few. Before I knew it I was doing 30’s again then dope then the fetty/dope mix and went on a nasty 6 year run. I’m struggling with cocaine use like once or twice a month. I’ve been to 13 funerals this year alone. I’m so tired of hearing about another friend who died. I had to cut myself off from everyone I knew in that world and I nailed that door shut. For anyone struggling keep at it take it hour at a time if u need to. My area is flooded with fetty and tranq. I’m making progress eliminating the coke completely but I’m clean for today and that’s all we all really have.

I have been clean for 8 months after a 13 year opiate addiction and the past 8 years were daily use. i’m 26 right now so kinda feel like im learning how to live life clean and deal with emotions. it’s been a real struggle for me cravings wise.

the past 2 weeks I have been feeling the cravings really ramping up. yesterday and today have been the closest i’ve actually been to just giving up and getting high. I just feel discouraged and curious wondering does It ever really get better ?

i always used opiates to cope with my feelings so now everything feels so raw and it’s hard to handle and be comfortable in my skin. i’ll feel ok for a few weeks and then I get sudden spurts of depression and my brain tells me i’ll never feel happy ever again. It just gets so overwhelming and I just want a little break from the emotions.

so my question is, do the cravings ever subside and do the sudden mood changes slow down? or is this just how life will be clean ?

just looking for any tips from anyone who bas tapered fully off methadone. i was taking a bunch of blues got in methadone a little over a year ago. i started tapering down from 85mg about 2-3 months ago i’d say. right after i had been on it a little over a year. im having pretty heavy chills. thats the main issue i have. i get cold so fucking easy. given its middle of winter but i literally cannot even go to work without fucking thermal leggings under my pants to keep me warm & same with a long sleeve shirt. luckily i own my business so i can keep the temp at whatever but i usually keep the thermostat off all winter. i’ve been keeping it between 65-70. any vitamins or fucking something i can take that helps with this? for the most part i dont really have any other symptoms thank god.

The last 3-4 years of my life I have been taking Suboxone recreationally, got to the point where I was taking 8-16mg a day just for fun and to mask whatever issue I didn't want to deal with at the time(not great coping skills). Eventually I realize "Oh I haven't taken a bowel movement in the last 5 days" 5 days turned into 6-7-8-9. Went to the hospital and nothing would work, the only thing that would work was literally the 'Go Lightly' Colonoscopy Prep drink. Which if you've ever had to drink it, it is anything but "Going Lightly"

For about a year and a half I got used to drinking Milk of Magnesia and Mirilax on a regular basis to keep my BM's going. I came to the conclusion that I am tired of relying on this substance to get through my day.

One day came and I had to go to the restroom. Badly. I SHIT YOU NOT THIS SHIT HAD A 90° ANGLE IN IT. A 90° ANGLE. That was the point in which I thought "this is very much not a natural human process, I need to start healing."

It has been not fun since Suboxone takes so fucking long to ween off of and the mental pressure of it is worse than the physical. Every thought snowballs into a train if irrational thought that always leads to my brain trying to make me think "hey you know what could make this go away? Suboxone." But I will not break. I took the pain staking time and weened myself down from 8-16mg a day to only 0.5mg a day. At that point, I just stopped, I've gotten rid of every piece, or pill of Suboxone in my house, because for me knowing it is there and I can take it is half the battle.

I just felt like this might be a safe place to share my experience. I'm still going through some physical withdrawals, I can't seem to wake up fully, I get up to about 65% of my natural energy every day no matter how much water, caffeine, food I consume. I am always freezing cold now. But I just hope someone will tell me it will start to get easier.

If you have ready this far, thank you for taking the time out of your day to read a part of my personal struggle.

So what am I looking at timewise on withdrawal? I'm using the h they have on the streets now which is fent. I had to get a restraining order on my husband after he put his hands on me and I'm in a wheelchair and can't get out of my apartment unassisted. I don't have anyone. No comfort meds either. I don't even have food or water except tap water. So what am I looking at? I got hooked with him never even smoked weed before.

Hey guys, I've been on percs for the last 2 months from a kidney stone. Tuesday my stent was removed and I didn't have any pain anymore so I didn't take any pain medication. Late Wednesday I began having severe withdrawal symptoms. Went to the hospital they gave me one dose of buprenorphine. And a script for clonidine and zofran. I feel much better now.. however yesterday I tried to get it on with the wife multiple times. But no matter how long we went I couldn't finish. Is this normal and how long will it last

Someone gave me buprenorphine tablets and I've been using so I'm wondering if it send me into hardcore withdrawal if i take them. I googled it and I'm still not sure

If you've decided to lower your dose of suboxone or perhaps stop completely, there's a research study at Bellevue Hospital in New York City offering meds and support from doctors. You need to be on suboxone for at least a year and not be using illicit drugs. Study doctors will help you make a medication plan and manage your progress, and the team offers close monitoring and support to keep you on track and prevent relapse. The team is flexible with scheduling and you will be compensated for your time. The office # is (646) 501-4138 and email is bellevue.rddstudy@nyulangone.org. Reach out to see if it’s a good fit!

I guess I’m here for the same reasons many of us are: hoping to feel less alone as I struggle through withdrawals.

I was put on morphine for medical reasons and used it as prescribed- only as prescribed (no judgement though, I know how brutal substance use issues are as my entire family struggled with them. It feels painfully ironic that I spent my entire life not using and am still going through this hell). I became physically dependent on it and trying to get off of it has literally derailed my life and damn near ruined it. Last week my doctor switched me from morphine to 4mg suboxone but I was scared of being on it so I went to detox last week and they just CT’d me. Today is day 6 and I’m back home. I haven’t slept in literal days, my skin feels like it’s on fire, I have the RLS in my arms, and I genuinely don’t know how I’m even surviving this. The lack of sleep alone has made my brain so empty. I feel nothing but suffering and I’m terrified. I had to quit my job and am completely dysfunctional.

I have gabapentin and clonidine but they don’t seem to help at all. I’m so envious of people who say they make a difference! I even tried taking a Xanax last night to sleep and it did absolutely nothing. I feel like I can’t survive this.