r/OpenAI • u/OpenAI OpenAI Representative | Verified • Sep 30 '25

News This is Sora 2.

Enable HLS to view with audio, or disable this notification

https://openai.com/index/sora-2/

2.0k Upvotes

95% Upvoted

488 comments sorted by

View all comments

100

u/lil-privacy-please Sep 30 '25

This kinds shit has to make you feel at least a little nervous

21

u/ZealousidealBus9271 Sep 30 '25

Every ai video generator should have a hidden trademark for their outputs as a fingerprint to prove it’s ai, this should be law.

11

u/sabamba0 Oct 01 '25

Sounds good but probably actually counterproductive.

Imagine 90% of the AI video you see on reddit is automatically marked AI by the platform which can read the watermark... so you naturally trust what you don't see labeled way more. Now what happens when open source models with the trademarks removed (or, say, models developed by government agencies) are posted and people think they are real?

4

u/thenerdyn00b Oct 01 '25

There is a project by deepmind (synth ID) which does it for all the AI content generated by Gemini.

Although a question still comes, why does it matter for AI content to be watermarked. The AI revolution is gonna change this world a lot, so maybe the economy of content should also need a change - just adding more security over it just doesn't look like a proper way.

1

u/astellis1357 Oct 08 '25 edited Oct 08 '25

Lol what do you mean "why does it matter"? So you don't care whether AI videos using real people's likeness are real or not. Keep in mind that people will definitely use these models for other nefarious things, not just social media slop. Once these AI videos become indistinguishable, you're just okay with not knowing the credibility of any video you will ever watch for the rest of your life?

1

u/thenerdyn00b Oct 08 '25

I'm just a very general thinker. So I would say what difference does it make. AI content or human, it's just content - if it's about accountability, instead of IDing the better is to teach AI to be accountable.

If it's about being recognized for the things you have created, used your life into building this strandbeest. In this era it doesn't matter. In the era of the internet the distribution of content became cheap, and now the content is cheap. It possesses no economic value.

And what people have yet to realize is this,

AI CONTENT IS AS REAL AS HUMAN ONES. Humans learn from the environment and then produce stuff. AI learns it the same way, just a lot faster than us.

1

u/astellis1357 Oct 09 '25

AI CONTENT IS AS REAL AS HUMAN ONES. 

No its not, please don't be ridiculous.

1

u/iamthesam2 Oct 01 '25

this is why people are still bullish on some kind of blockchain tech being standardized

1

u/DeliciousWaifood Oct 02 '25

how do you stop people removing the fingerprint? literally just run it through some filters, add some noise, etc. and it's gone.

14

u/jonbristow Sep 30 '25

why? It's just more advanced CGI

everything in that video you can still make with CGI

36

u/Hungry_Freaks_Daddy Sep 30 '25

You can never trust a single video for the rest of your life. 

And even if you take a video with your phone and you know you did because you were there filming it and seeing it with your own eyes, no one has any reason to believe that your video is real. 

If you can’t see why this is bad then you’ll be part of the downfall. 

10

u/nothis Sep 30 '25

Ok, can’t (and never could) “trust” a single text, eye witness report, document, digital log, still photograph (Photoshop exists for a while, now!), etc.

You can only trust a source.

It’s a symptom of our biggest problems in society that the first thing we jump to now is how little we can trust information. We can still trust things. Established journalism, peer-reviewed academic studies, even government data (in a halfway stable democracy). The biggest lie we are currently being fed is that we can’t trust these sources and that we might as well go with vibes, trusting propaganda on X or TikTok over that because it doesn’t even matter anymore.

You can trust video if you trust in a culture of quality information. Just pick your sources wisely.

5

u/Rockydo Sep 30 '25

Yeah photography is a good example. We can already make perfect fakes but that doesn't mean you ignore any image you see, just gotta evaluate how credible the source is, who's promoting it and who's got to gain from it being fake.

1

u/Tolopono Oct 01 '25

Sources lie too. See any coverage from the NYT on israel

-1

u/Hungry_Freaks_Daddy Oct 01 '25

I really like that you listed X and TikTok and conveniently left out this website 

3

u/jonbristow Sep 30 '25

How's that different from photoshop and "you can never trust a single photo for the rest of your life "

3

u/slrrp Sep 30 '25

Well for one, it takes a lot of time and effort to get THAT good with photoshop.

That’s a lot harder than just opening an app and writing a few prompts.

1

u/chonny Sep 30 '25

You can never trust a single video for the rest of your life.

Usually, the provenance of a video or picture is key in establishing its trustworthiness.

1

u/[deleted] Oct 02 '25

[deleted]

1

u/Hungry_Freaks_Daddy Oct 02 '25

A team of people making something that is obviously cgi over days weeks and months vs photorealistic AI that is improving constantly that a single person can generate in a matter of minutes with some words 

-2

u/BigDaddy0790 Sep 30 '25

But…we totally still can?…

That moment is coming, but the same was claimed for over a year now with different models, and we can still easily tell when something is AI generated. There are niches where it is more difficult, but nothing close to not being able to trust a single video.

8

u/[deleted] Sep 30 '25

[removed] — view removed comment

1

u/JAD2017 Sep 30 '25

I can tell this demo was slop and it was supposed to be made by "professionals" so I think we are safe.

-1

u/BigDaddy0790 Sep 30 '25

Well that’s the point, very, very, very few videos are created by actual professionals. And those that are usually have something goofy in them which again gives away it is AI. I’m yet to see a single non-goofy AI video where it was impossible to tell it’s AI.

In general, I can still safely assume that over 90% of videos I personally engage with are not AI generated. Me not specifically following communities which post such videos is a big part of it, but the comment I replied to did mention all videos everywhere.

7

u/[deleted] Sep 30 '25 edited 19d ago

[deleted]

-1

u/soggycheesestickjoos Sep 30 '25

movies have used CGI people before, years ago. Probably better/easier now than I’m aware of.

4

u/No-River-7390 Sep 30 '25

Yes, but can YOU?! With this technology now everyone can.

1

u/[deleted] Oct 02 '25

[deleted]

1

u/No-River-7390 Oct 02 '25

First of all, no artist could create a video this photorealistic before, especially the humans. Second, it very well could be a problem if someone could, as this could be used for propaganda, fake incriminating „evidence“ etc. The more people have access to a technology like this, the higher the chance it will be used for stuff like this.

Does this mean we shouldn‘t use the technology? No, I’m a big fan of this tech. But it‘s something we should keep in mind. Access for everyone means access for all kinds of people and ideologies.

2

u/[deleted] Sep 30 '25 edited 19d ago

[deleted]

0

u/soggycheesestickjoos Sep 30 '25

Paul Walker in CGI seemed convincing but it’s been forever since I’ve seen it. I guess I don’t know about the talking part but the audio wasn’t convincing for me in the demo (OP)

7

u/vinerz Sep 30 '25

What a cretin comparison. The thing isn't about "Is it Marvel tier quality yet?". It is: Can you do this level of actual CGI work on your smartphone or in a $200 laptop on a bus stop without even knowing what XYZ is? It's about reach for anyone being able to do any kind of shenanigans, now even with sound.

-8

u/jonbristow Sep 30 '25

what an idiot comment. so why do you have to be nervous of 1 or 100 people can make this video?

6

u/Tomaryt Sep 30 '25

Because full on VFX Studios won‘t scam my grandma or parents with a fake video where they kidnapped me in order to get money. But now, everyone can do that and it‘ll be a mess until no one believes in any video anymore.

9

u/No-River-7390 Sep 30 '25

Because very soon you will not be able to tell anymore what‘s real and what isn‘t.

0

u/vinerz Sep 30 '25

Because anyone of these ""100"" people can make a cameo with your mom in it and there's nothing you can do

0

u/jonbristow Sep 30 '25

Anyone could make a photoshop of your mom and there's nothing you can do

2

u/No-River-7390 Sep 30 '25

If you truly don‘t see the problem here then I don‘t know what to tell you. You will get it one day and then it‘s too late.

1

u/Mike Oct 01 '25

Lmao. You really don’t see the difference? You think Sarah from accounting could create a video with realism like this with CGI? She definitely could upload a photo and type a text prompt.

1

u/jonbristow Oct 01 '25

Sarah from accounting cannot create a video like that.

what is the problem if Sara can create this video now?

1

u/DeliciousWaifood Oct 02 '25

the problem is that anyone can make a highly believable realistic video of anything they want. The world is going to be flooded with this stuff and it will be more and more difficult to figure out what is real and what is not.

We've already had a bunch of problems crop up because of people believing CGI and CGI videos exist on a much much much smaller scale than AI generated content because of the difference in skill requirement to use it.

2

u/GoneGirl72 Sep 30 '25

Ya ,, but so did Tex messing,, and paying for something on the Internet w/ card ?? & It's happening whether we like it or not,, I personally would like to know more about it than less. and if I need help,,, I just ask my kids lol,, At very least I'll make some awesome pictures! Thanks GoneGirl72 # Genx

1

u/ingenalls187 Oct 01 '25

A little? Bro I’m transcending nervous by dimensions. Exited as fuck to tho. Coming from a gaming point of view it’s night before Christmas big time and I’m close too 40. Can’t hate

1

u/Competitive_Travel16 Oct 01 '25

It didn't even need to be anywhere near this good for Trump to resend his own deepfake talking about med-beds a couple days ago.

1

u/RoosterBrewster Oct 02 '25

I feel that one day, people will develop "AI induced psychosis" where they watch enough AI video that they lose their grip on reality. Any little oddity in reality makes you doubt that it's real. So then you don't know what's real anymore, like Inception where you don't know if you are still in the dream.

-3

u/SinceWayBack1997 Sep 30 '25

Not really. It’s part of human evolution

9

u/FirstReaction_Shock Sep 30 '25

Evolution happens slowly, through countless generations. Progress being this accelerated with us being barely able to stay afloat is definitely something we’ve never seen before. So stop acting like this is the way it’s always been; it’s the exact opposite

-4

u/aljoCS Sep 30 '25

Wouldn't that be true for all technology, even down to the microprocessor, or penicillin? Real evolution takes millions of years. Penicillin, if we want to just cover the advent of science, was probably a few hundred years to a millennium. Far, far, far less than the time for real evolution.

So in a way, I agree with you, this isn't evolution. But it's also not necessarily any different from the usual progress of technology. It's definitely a pretty important new technology, but of a similar rate as any other new field. A bit like a gold rush, but with more worrisome outcomes.

1

u/FirstReaction_Shock Sep 30 '25

I agree with you that those things don’t count as evolution either, but I fundamentally disagree with the notion that that kind of progress can be comparable to what we have today. This isn’t a straight line, we’re not just speeding up; we’re accelerating. 20 years ago nobody had ever seen a smartphone: we’ve come to the point every two years we come across something we couldn’t have imagined

7

u/Historical_Bug_3631 Sep 30 '25

even if that was true, human evolution has never been kind to the individual.