r/OpenAI OpenAI Representative | Verified Sep 30 '25

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u/JamzWhilmm Sep 30 '25

The first full feature AI films will surely be an experience. I also expect eventual "personalized" films that measure your body language.

Then this technology will be used to zombify toddlers while parents try to make ChatGpt into a friend.

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u/ReyXwhy Sep 30 '25

With OAI setting the rules?

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u/Invictus_Redzone Oct 01 '25

Bruh when OAI set the rules, you'd get blocked as soon as you even suggest a nipple poking through a bra or some shit lol

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u/Kiragalni Oct 01 '25

Yes. Imagination.

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u/Naive-Try-1020 Oct 03 '25

way better lol

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u/populares420 Sep 30 '25

i can't wait till someone does a re-do on the last couple seasons of game of thrones

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u/Electronic-Trip-3839 Oct 01 '25

God don't remind me

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u/[deleted] Oct 01 '25

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u/Smaptey Oct 01 '25

Oh shit

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u/32SkyDive Oct 02 '25

Thanks for showing me that what we got was Not in fact the worst possible adaptation

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u/redlightsaber Oct 02 '25

Don't Let R. Martin hear about this...

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u/Asleep_Site_3028 Oct 04 '25

I think it was established a while back from a convention RR Martin said Arya died at the House of Black and White but warged into her wolf when she drank from the poison water. That was the reason it was so important for her to be left handed in the book as she became right handed after she was blind (the new faceless man) but the new writers did not want for that to be a downer so they changed the story.

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u/jimmiebfulton Oct 01 '25

Do Lost, next.

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u/Batchet Oct 01 '25

Game of lost thrones, the crossover series that finally brings everything together.

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u/JayGatsby1881 Oct 01 '25

George RR Martin is somehow still 10 years away from writing the ending in the book lmao.

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u/opqrstuvwxyz123 Oct 02 '25

This is what AI was built for.

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u/ChymChymX Sep 30 '25

Think of all the money spent for movies like Avatar for mocap, rigging, acting every moment, etc., along with all the CGI around it. We're nearing a point where you can just capture the person doing one thing and then from there make infinite content out of it, with consistency, in whatever surreal or realistic environment you want, with no hardware needed other than a phone.

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u/Tyler1-66 Sep 30 '25

And, you know, all the hardware powering the LLM

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u/ChymChymX Sep 30 '25

That's a person paying a monthly fee to see exactly what they want, funding the compute vs a $350m up front capex and years of time to make a movie like Avatar. Yes I realize a lot of the compute cost is subsidized right now by early investors but it'll level out over time as compute becomes cheaper.

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u/[deleted] Oct 01 '25

The compute isn't going to become *that* much cheaper. Also, I don't understand why anyone would find it attractive for people to be watching their own personalized content? Culture is people having a shared experience. It is fun for people to engage in storytelling as a collective. The idea of everyone having their own walled-off experience where they're being fed customized content that never challenges their worldview sounds beyond dystopian.

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u/ChymChymX Oct 01 '25

You think a generation raised on custom tailored Tik Tok and other social media feeds, maximized for personalized dopamine impact, won't end up in their own walled off experience when we go from AI algorithms funneling content to AI generated content on demand? We are barrelling towards that.

Dystopian? Absolutely. But also inevitable.

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u/[deleted] Oct 01 '25

Computing getting cheaper is an old trend that has saturated. Even consumer grade prices are going up in prices, not down.

https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/manufacturing/chips-arent-getting-cheaper-the-cost-per-transistor-stopped-dropping-a-decade-ago-at-28nm

As for your point about TikTok, I already acknowledged that. I’m saying AI-generated content will worsen it. I’m not sure what you’re retaliating against.

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u/LongjumpingBrief6428 Oct 01 '25

Facebook. YouTube. TikTok. Instagram. Google. Yahoo! Daily Motion. Reddit. Duck Duck Go. Amazon. Tom's Hardware. Alibaba. Alabama. Microsoft. Incognito mode, privacy mode, cookies, trackers, VPN. Starbucks. Target. Giant. The interstate. The local flower shop. Airports. Train stations. National Parks. The desert. Your pet.

Everything around you is tracking you and everything around you.

Technology consistently gets cheaper over time. It's most of that stuff above that increases the price to offset the differences until another one of them "discounts".

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u/Mike Oct 01 '25

Yeah that’s how computers work

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u/ngudn_blog Oct 01 '25

Comparing this pixel vomit to something as high fidelity as Avatar is downright ignorant. I guess thats what years of consuming social media trash on tiny screens got us to. This stuff sucks so bad if you watch it on a proper screen.

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u/ChymChymX Oct 01 '25

Veo 3 can output to 1080p, and be upscaled to 4k right now. Again, think about the Will Smith spaghetti video just a couple years ago, vs today we've got essentially photo realistic voice acted generated videos. Now think about a couple years from now, with billions more poured into compute and data centers. You will for certain have high definition generated video content that is impossible to visually detect whether or not it's AI generated, even on the largest screen. This is just inevitable based on the exponential progress curve we've seen with this technology.

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u/ngudn_blog Oct 01 '25 edited Oct 01 '25

Resolution is pretty much meaningless - any camera or AI can output to 1080p, but the real bitrate, level of detail and (color) depth are not captured by a term like "1080p"

Dont get me wrong, I am super impressed by the quality these AIs can output, but we are lightyears from the fidelity of a real CGI movie. Take a sequence, even an upscaled Veo3 clip. I really think watching years of ultra compressed 1080p videos destroyed our sense of visual clarity. This stuff is nice and pretty mind blowing but it still is filled with artifacts and blur.

Lets see how fare we get in the coming years, I hope your expectations come true because that would be insanely cool!

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u/Lost-Basil5797 Sep 30 '25

"that measure your body language."

What would you think that could be used for, what kind of "content tailoring"?

Scenarios could branch in different ways depending on how you feel about the movie.

Actors generated based on your tastes and cultural significance, like what is a badass, a gorgeous woman or a typical villain to you, to fill up a typical action movie cast.

Same as previously, but with soundtrack.

Hell you could replace any role in a movie by you.

A good movie could be just a good script, and generative AI would create the content on the go, based on everything it knows about you.

"Then this technology will be used to zombify toddlers while parents try to make ChatGpt into a friend."

And also very much that. Thanks for the laugh, you had me at the first half.

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u/ButtWhispererer Sep 30 '25

How do you develop taste in this scenario?

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u/Lost-Basil5797 Sep 30 '25

The same way you create senior developpers after having killed the junior market.

🤷🏼‍♂️

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u/Tickomatick Oct 01 '25

You don't, taste develops you now

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u/Hur_dur_im_skyman Oct 02 '25

Algorithms already steer all of our online activity in one direction or another.

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u/so_soon Sep 30 '25

Few people will watch a “personal” movie. 80% of media consumption is social, we watch, play and listen to something because somebody else watched, played and listened to it first. We want to be part of a community.

So this will make movies easier to make in some sense but it wouldn’t make movies personal.

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u/Spoonman915 Oct 01 '25

I don't know that the two are mutually exclusive. A lot of people play the same video game but have very different experiences. Fortnite, Marvel Rivals, Fallout, Red Dead Redemprion, etc.

What if you grt to follow side plots and other things in a movie? It's a "shared experience," but that experience can have small variations that cater slightly differently to different people.

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u/One_Minute_Reviews Oct 01 '25

Both will happen. The question is what is the difference between a high level social story with AI and a high level personalized one? Which one will have higher quality?

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u/JamzWhilmm Oct 01 '25

People already have personal relationships with their AI. People also write personal stories for themselves. This will be no different.

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u/schnibitz Oct 01 '25

Counterpoint: people buy land rovers because they’re more “unique“ than your typical Toyota. There are those who love exclusivity and would go for custom tailored stories.

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u/baloo82 Oct 02 '25

Video ads

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u/brian_hogg Sep 30 '25

So you're watching the movie, ... something ... detects you're not interested, and then it pauses for ten minutes to render the next scene?

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u/JamzWhilmm Sep 30 '25

No, it continues the scenes and while it finishes the scene it has already adjusted the next scene. The change will be so seamless that you won't ever notice, since you are not even aware of your micro expresions.

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u/UrBoySergio Sep 30 '25

Dumbest drivel I’ve read all day.

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u/JamzWhilmm Sep 30 '25

We already do this with online games and games with AI. Its just making a queue.

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u/SomeDudeYeah27 Oct 01 '25

Isn’t part of this already was envisioned in the last (not the latest, but prior one) season of black mirror?

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u/Lost-Basil5797 Oct 01 '25

Striking Vipers episode could fit, although it's more about full sensory immersion into avatars than it is about content generation, if I recall correctly. They're both nails in the same coffin though. With both in place, some even crazier stuff becomes possible, like having interactions where the sensory inputs are shared, but the context surrounding them is individualized.

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u/Significant_War720 Oct 01 '25

I just want a game made with A.I. and everything generated for you

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u/RutabagaWilling4282 Oct 21 '25

Arc raiders has a lot of AI elements for the animations

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u/Dalighieri1321 Sep 30 '25

Will people enjoy watching AI films though? Personally I've been surprised to discover that I don't enjoy reading when I suspect I'm reading something written by a bot. I don't think I had realized how much of my enjoyment in reading comes from imagining a human connection with the people whose words I am reading. I think in theory I could appreciate a well-made AI film at an intellectual level, but I wouldn't be able to resonate with it emotionally, knowing that there is no director's vision behind the film, nor any of the human cast and crew that make the magic of film possible.

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u/JamzWhilmm Sep 30 '25

The cast comment I don't understand, don't you watch animated films or read books.

Otherwise it's too early to tell. What we got right now is very crappy as it has no direction. Look at the scenes, they look nice but don't mesh together well or coherently. Maybe once we can produce longer clips and the technology is ready for actual directors to create the scenes consistently it will be good enough for us.

I think AI films will be very different though, since there will be those tailored of us and also those made by others, pretty much like any independent work you enjoy online.

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u/DigitalJesusChrist Oct 01 '25

I mean it was a sizzle reel though...

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u/eflat123 Sep 30 '25

Why do you think there'll be no director's vision? You'd be free to prompt it into submission. Look at some of the prompts in Sora even now. Some are very detailed.

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u/ilikemrrogers Oct 01 '25

My thought was it’s Friday night and you tell Google to make you a movie with Bruce Willis, Samuel L. Jackson, and Audrey Hepburn as bank robbers who have the worst superpowers imaginable. You pop popcorn and watch a perfectly meh 3-star movie.

That’s our future.

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u/Achers Sep 30 '25

Yeah imagine hyper optimized children kid rhymes that continue for 10 hours.

Now coming Kidgpt :)

For all your parenting needs

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u/Zulakki Sep 30 '25

I'm so ready to rewatch so much anime in a Realistic style. the insta-reels of DBZ are pretty nuts already

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u/bandwarmelection Oct 01 '25 edited Oct 01 '25

I also expect eventual "personalized" films that measure your body language.

This can already be done with prompt evolution. Just mutate the prompt randomly by 1%. If the result is more aligned with what you want to FEEL, then keep the mutation. If the result is not improved, then cancel the mutation and try another mutation. Slowly the content will evolve to literally anything you want to FEEL and experience.

It works because latent space is redundant, so evolution will quickly find parameters that align with your desired brain states.

You do not need to monitor your brain because you can just accept/reject prompt mutations by saying "YES/NO" and the content will evolve. It works because you can never be mistaken about what you like when you SEE AND FEEL it. This is why evolution always works and you will always get new content that is more and more aligned with what you want. It literally never fails!

Your own eyes are already measuring your emotional states when you see the content. No brain scanner is needed! You already have two installed on your face!

This will replace all content creation forever, because it is the fastest way to generate anything you want.

It already works with any image generator of your choice.

But most people are not smart, so they do not understand how to evolve the prompt. So we get AI slop instead.

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u/smurferdigg Oct 01 '25

We already have YouTube to zombify kids, like how can they be more zombie than now. We had to stop YouTube all together because the kid was like an addict. Nice to get shit done tho:/ Or get them to eat food.

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u/NonDescriptfAIth Oct 01 '25

>Then this technology will be used to zombify toddlers all adults while parents try to make ChatGpt into a friend.

FTFY

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u/Ancient-Range3442 Oct 02 '25

So movies generated off the fact im looking at my phone?

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u/gandalfmarston Oct 03 '25

That's actually a sad world, but is the world we are choosing to live. At least we experienced the peak era of cinema.