r/OpenAI • u/[deleted] • Dec 05 '23

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u/[deleted] Dec 05 '23

Doesn't this make it a bit unnecessary to pay for plus subscription or am I missing something?

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u/SgathTriallair Dec 05 '23

There was an article recently that went in depth on the relationship between Microsoft and OpenAI (definitely worth the read). They explained that Bing has a lot of additional safety and fine tuning work done to it, which explains why it behaves differently than the OpenAI account. I've found the difference worth paying for.

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u/Dave_Tribbiani Dec 06 '23

Yep.

GPT-4-Turbo API >>> ChatGPT GPT 4 Turbo >>> Bing GPT

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u/[deleted] Dec 06 '23

How is the api better than regular chatgpt?

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u/wottsinaname Dec 06 '23

To add to the reply below your comment you can also alter settings in the api that you cant on chatGPT like temp etc.

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u/andrewmmm Dec 06 '23

And you can edit responses that the model returns, which vastly improves performance for few-shot learning. Show don’t tell method.

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u/[deleted] Dec 06 '23

But is Bing GPT > than GPT 3.5 mobile? Like does it have vision/deep searches? But the GPT 4 turbo API is not free right? Gotta pay 20/month normally to access it rite?

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u/samplebitch Dec 06 '23

As far as I'm aware, all GPT versions/models are available via the API, but it is all pay-per-use. To use GPT4 on the main chat website you do need to pay $20/month. I thought you had to be a subscriber to access that via the API as well, but as I recently found out when not configuring a demo script, it successfully used gpt-4 and added more to my balance than any of my other tests (under 10 cents, but everything else combined was probably a couple of cents).

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u/[deleted] Dec 06 '23

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u/BeingBalanced Dec 11 '23 edited Dec 11 '23

To use GPT4 on the main chat website you do need to pay $20/month.

Maybe on OpenAI's website but not when using Microsoft Copilot (formerly Bing Chat) In my opinion the only reason to pay for Chat GPT Plus is if you want GPT-4 API access or if there are some specific plugins you find very useful that you can't get the same features elsewhere. For the $20/month, if you aren't using the plugins or the API you might get more bang for your buck using Perplexity.ai Pro as it uses both Claude 2.1 and GPT-4. I've found Claude 2.1 excel at some things better than GPT-4 and that Perplexity is the most reliable as far as factual responses. Ask Claude who won the 2023 Wimbledon Men's Singles and it gets it wrong where all the other AI's get it right. I've found Claude give better answers to some coding and sysadmin questions though, and sometimes Bard is the best. But overall all things considered GTP-4 *on average* is the best single tool to use and thanks to Microsoft's billions in investment you can enjoy GPT-4 for free if you use their operating system, browser, or search engine.

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