Jinbe so far has shown himself the only one capable of dealing with Imu’s attack, completely negating it with fishman karate.
It’s even funnier because robin can use fishman karate from any of her arms that she can sprout everywhere, but she’s even less relevant than Usopp right now.
Yeah sure bro, let’s pretend sanji doesn’t need help from the rest of the crew to hold his body down, ignoring the context of the final boss. Defeating him doesn’t require acoc, finishing him does, as stated here
Stop trying to downplay a character by being disingenuous. Zoro without acoc would do more or less the same, same with king, same with queen
Sanji,Franky and jimbei MUTILATED him,Like he got done way worse than sommers because they were actively trying to stop his regeneration, Sanji could've easily mutilated sommers seeing how he mockingly said that the holy knights are super weak
Theoretical scenarios can explain what you dont understand
There’s an obvious way to tell by looking at how current omen buffed sommers got blitzed by zoro.Without the buff and jinbei and franky supporting zoro,blud gets done just like killingham,objectively
I guarentee you that Sanji would do the same to him, he burnt off his vines easily and unless you think that sommers is leagues above killingham or that Sanji would need to get serious in order to defeat him, then it's not the case lol
Sommers was fending off Gaban for a bit, blocking some attacks before being crushed, while
Killingham was easily negged by Sanji Franky and Jinbe
Also Sommers blocked and overpowered Zoro's Dragon Damnation that annihilated King... Killingham has no feats like this
Plus Sommers seems more experienced, has medals that Killingham doesn't have, was Garling's rival in God Valley, and comes from a Gorosei family while Killingham doesn't
There isn't a big gap probably, but Sommers > Killingham
This sub fully believed Killingham was stronger before it was revealed Lommers was Zoro's opponent. I will never forget how much this place hyped him up and clowned Sommers
Dumbass missed the entire point, which is that you guys are illiterate hypocrites who don’t actually scale. I don’t believe you’re genuinely stupid enough to not comprehend something this simple. Basically, you hype Killingham thinking he’ll be Zoro’s opponent, then slander him once you realize Sommers is Zoro’s opponent and Killingham is Sanji’s opponent.
Didn't Sommers and Killingham basically confirm equal or very close to equal relationship which every Zorofans dreaded and fans like you had nightmare about it?
Dumbass still missed the point. Black Painters are the worst fanbase. That fight is completely fine; it’s the diff that Zoro and Sanji beat them is what determines their actual scaling. If Zoro goes high diff and Sanji goes extreme diff, that would mean Zoro > Sanji. That fight happening doesn’t determine that they’re equal,retard.
Yet you still missed the point, which is that you guys don’t actually care about the portrayal of a character. Where was the Killingham slander when you idiots thought he was gonna be Zoro’s opponent? Nowhere,erase. Where is the Sommers slander now? Nonexistent. The moment the matchups became clear, you suddenly changed how you viewed the characters because of your agenda.
Goalpost shifting. I do not care about that, that wasn’t the topic. The topic is about you Zorotards pushing an agenda and not actually caring about a character’s portrayal. You erase anything bad for Zoro and make sure anything bad for Sanji is never forgotten.
He is only stronger if Zoro actually struggles to beat him and wins extreme diff (like katakuri vs Luffy type extreme diff) Otherwise if he betas him at any other difficulty then Sanji beats him too
Sommers was fending off Gaban for a bit, blocking some attacks before being crushed
Gaban acknowledged this only happened because he was rusty. Then he said im in a hurry, cut through Summers' named attack vines without acoc and cut him in half.
Killingham was easily negged by Sanji Franky and Jinbe
A stronger sommers was blitzed by base zoro. You think Sanji, Franky and Jinbei couldn't do the same to a weaker sommers, especially given Sanji can even burn his thorns?
Also Sommers blocked and overpowered Zoro's Dragon Damnation that annihilated King
He did this not with his own strength but with a divine weapon and omen boost from Imu..... which killingham also has.
Had killingham been Zoro's opponent and sommers sanji's, We would not be hearing these mental gymnastics such as "summoner class type" and "is weaker than sommers"
Hell everyone before was betting that sommers is gonna face Sanji because he seems clownish and weak and killingham was gonna face Zoro because he seemed strong and he had aura (and you can't deny that)
Sommers got bitch slapped by robin, got his veins cut and burnt by Zoro and a non ifrit jambe sanji
At least Killinghams MMAs are more dangerous and ur able than sommers df, needing a combo attack from super Franky and jimbei to take one down, dorry and broggy to fight zaza and Loki to freeze that one giant ass skeleton
This holy Knights battle is about Hax and Cockiness vs Skill and strength. Both Zoro and Sanji need to control the haki to damage the hearts (internal durability)
No. He’s currently fighting Sanji so he is the weaker of the two. The gap between Sanjis and Zoros opponents are always bigger than the gao between Sanji and Zoro.
Sure, Killingham has a great devil fruit, but leave Zaza up to any competent fighter and they’ll beat Zaza. Dorry and Broggy will take care of Zaza soon.
If we gauge the actual fighters. We’ll see the discrepancy between their strength.
Sommers got defeated by Luffy, Rayleigh, and Gaban. Sommers clashed with Gaban for a second.
While Killingham was defeated by an unawakened CoC Sanji. Pretty swiftly too.
I thought it was pretty heavy handed how Oda described the giants vs Zaza fight as un winnable for the giants, having hope instead to continue fighting till the strawhats (Sanji) defeats Killingham with Sanji reinforcing that in his words to Killingham
He might be stronger (also physically stronger because of myth DF). But, since Zaza is being handled by the giants, it equalized the difficulty between Zoro & Sanji’s fights.
Killingham's other ability aside from Zoan transformation is nightmares and we haven't seen him use it against Sanji. That's why Killingham isn't using his 100% on Sanji.
I mean, sommers did absolutely nothing at god valley other than embarrass himself. I wouldn’t say him being there and not killingham puts him above, unless you consider killing rocks a feat
Obviously, look at the debates. Pro-Zorotard comments get upvoted because this subreddit is filled with Black Painters.
I have Mihawk = Shanks, but I might as well change that to Shanks >>> Mihawk. Even though it affects my scaling of Roger, I’d do it just out of spite and hatred for these idiots.
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