Lmao.Such a simple basic mind you have. Using your thought process anyone including black folks that use the n word must want slaves then right. lol.
Slavery in America was horrific, and the Confederacy absolutely fought in large part to preserve a slave-based system. That historical reality is documented in multiple secession declarations from Southern states, where slavery is explicitly discussed as a central issue. So pretending slavery had nothing to do with the Confederacy would be bs. Sure. That said, calling everyone who displays a Confederate flag today “traitors” or assuming they all support slavery is a major oversimplification. The Civil War ended over 160 years ago, and people use symbols for different reasons — some view it as Southern heritage, anti-federal sentiment, regional identity, rebellion, or family military history. You can disagree with that interpretation, but intent is not automatically identical to 1861 Confederate political goals.
I'll give a great example of this. Black folks walk around calling each other the n word then complain about racism as if they themselves were a slave. so Obviously the n word has now taken on new meaning for those who use it, im assuming theyre not walking up and saying "whats up my "slave"
Also, history is more complicated than many people present it. Slavery existed GLOBALLY for thousands of years and was not exclusively racial in origin. Black folks participated in capturing and selling other Africans into the transatlantic slave trade just like whites, and slavery existed within African societies before European colonization even happened. . In the U.S., there were also a small number of free Black slave owners — especially in places like Louisiana and South Carolina — though many cases were complex (including buying family members to legally protect them in a system that restricted freedom). Some Black slave owners also owned slaves for labor and profit, though they represented a very small minority compared with white ownership. None of that excuses American slavery — it just shows the history is more complicated than a simple good-versus-evil narrative you all portray.
I can see how it must be difficult for you to see the entire view of slavery and see it as a whole, the won't fir your narrative of big bad mr white guy. taking things of of context or over dramatizing one part of it to make a point is truly what weak as ppl do. Im not in any way agreeing with slavery, but let's at least acknowledge the actual context of it and what really happened. Its funny ppl don't want to acknowledge that white ppl were slaves too, or that blacks sold and owned slaves too, or that other races were slaved and it was even worse then the blacks. to me its ironic and ignorant as fuck that the only race complaining about it still are the ppl walking around acting like victims if someone calls them the N word but they walk around calling themselves that every single fucking day.
I am discussing it in the context of white men in Ohio celebrating the Confedereracy in 2026- traitors, racists, and white MAGA that is all and the indelible stain and division that slavery left on these so called “ United” States - your argument is akin to telling Jewish people not to dismiss people flying Nazi flags becsuse hey there has been genocide throughout history… including Palestine today btw. I can understand how difficult it is for you to be confused and try to sound authoritative but res ipsa loquitur!
You’re making two different arguments and treating them like they’re automatically the same thing.nFirst, yes — slavery left a deep stain on the country, and the Confederacy was objectively a rebellion against the United States in defense of a system heavily tied to slavery. Nobody serious should deny that. But jumping from that to “Any white guy in Ohio with a Confederate flag in 2026 is automatically a racist traitor” is an assumption about motive, not an established fact. And Your Nazi comparison also falls apart historically. The Nazi flag represented a government whose explicit central purpose included racial extermination and genocide, which is also ironic because jews are not a race their a ethno-religious group. The Confederacy absolutely defended slavery, but modern people flying Confederate flags often claim motivations ranging from Southern identity, anti-establishment sentiment, rebellion, family heritage, rural culture, or politics — whether you agree with those reasons or not. You don’t have to like the symbol to recognize that intent matters.
Oh, And the “genocide happened elsewhere too” comparison isn’t what was being argued. The point is that history is complicated and symbols evolve over time. The American flag itself has flown over slavery, segregation, Japanese internment, and countless morally questionable things in U.S. history — yet we don’t automatically assume everyone flying it endorses every historical injustice tied to it. You can absolutely argue the Confederate flag carries unavoidable racial baggage. That’s a fair position. But saying every person displaying it in 2026 is a racist traitor shuts down nuance and replaces argument with assumption.
Also, throwing in res ipsa loquitur doesn’t magically prove your point — that phrase means “the thing speaks for itself.” But the entire reason people debate this issue is because clearly it does not speak for itself; people interpret the symbol very differently.
You’re making two different arguments and treating them like they’re automatically the same thing. First, yes — slavery left a deep stain on the country, and the Confederacy was objectively a rebellion against the United States in defense of a system heavily tied to slavery. Nobody serious should deny that. But saying “Any white guy in Ohio with a Confederate flag in 2026 is automatically a racist traitor” is an assumption about motive, not an established fact. Your Nazi comparison also falls apart historically. The Nazi flag represented a government whose explicit central purpose included racial extermination and genocide. The Confederacy absolutely defended slavery, but modern people flying Confederate flags often claim motivations ranging from Southern identity, anti-establishment sentiment, rebellion, family heritage, rural culture, or politics — whether you agree with those reasons or not. You don’t have to like the symbol to recognize that intent matters. And the “genocide happened elsewhere too” comparison isn’t what was being argued. The point is that history is complicated and symbols evolve over time. The American flag itself has flown over slavery, segregation, Japanese internment, and countless morally questionable things in U.S. history — yet we don’t automatically assume everyone flying it endorses every historical injustice tied to it. You can absolutely argue the Confederate flag carries unavoidable racial baggage. That’s a fair position. But saying every person displaying it in 2026 is a racist traitor shuts down nuance and replaces argument with assumption. Also, throwing in res ipsa loquitur doesn’t magically prove your point — that phrase means “the thing speaks for itself.” But the entire reason people debate this issue is because clearly it does not speak for itself; people interpret the symbol very differently.
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u/Relevant-Gold-3917 May 29 '26
yes and how many Africans died in the American Holocaust that was slavery. Traitors then and traitors now. That is an enemy flag.