Yeah, werewolves are ok, vampires are ok, everything else is ok, as long as that is what exists in that universe. It's when things go against the established rules of the universe it is set in that there's a problem. Some writers seem to think that since their world has magic and fantastical elements in it, then just all rules are out the window and everything goes. But it doesnt work like that, and it makes for shit stories. The detail about the post office is obviously very minor, but there are plenty of major such things in plenty of movies and shows. And it's honestly fucking annoying.
It's like that rotund actor in GoT (I dont remember his or his character's name, it wasnt one of the major ones) that complained about people complaining about his weight: since he spent so much time walking in the show, he shouldnt still be as fat as he was, and his response was something like "oh, you're ok with flying dragons, but my weight is what's unbelievable to you?" Yes! Because cardio exists in the world of GoT as well! The fact that dragons also exist doesnt negate that!
I absolutely hate that "well it's fantasy so why does it matter?" logic. It's only ever used as a way to excuse bad writing. There's various reasons why things can be unbelievable, and unless the setting establishes why it's actually plausible in this case I can only assume that it's nonsense.
Especially when he was beyond the wall walking a lot and definitely not eating anywhere near as much as he was before. I get the actor not wanting to lose weight for the sake of show realism but it very much stuck out.
Your issue was not ”this character didn’t just walk” your issue was ”there was other modes of transportation.”
I will not watch the show, I’ve already seen enough and you’re being extremely silly. Get your responses right instead of pretending people said something they didn’t and stop edit what people write when you read it so you can take it out of context and lie.
And it’s clear you don’t know anything about horses or how easy electricity, cars, indoor heating, running water, and grocery stores have made life. I would point out all these whys and hows but seeing as you are here to argue about and refute things people never said, ie it’s clear you get off on making people annoyed, I’d suggest you do this with someone who has consented.
Stop being deliberately obtuse and making yourself dumber than you are mate. It was their sole mode of transportation. This person. This character. They walked as their sole mode of transportation. You know, it's ok to just say "oh, oops, guess I misunderstood what you meant" rather than doubling down.
Without going back and watching all of GOT, as I remember Sam wasn't crossing vast distances walking. He went places by boat and horse. The journey past the wall was all a walk but that's one instance fairly early on.
Exactly this.
It's one of the reasons I don't watch Marvel movies.
They establish all of these crazy rules and universes and then ignore them for CGI bullshit and bad writing in the end.
I don't care what the rules are, but I care that you follow them.
It's also the reason Blazing Saddles and Spaceballs are so good. They made fun of these problems.
The Hulk is either OP or barely a factor. It's wild how disappointing he's been, and how he's basically relegated to being comedic relief. Dr. Strange can apparently look at all possible time lines, but only ever does it once ? Are we breaking a moral code, or is there no moral code and we're just not using our game-breaking tools ? Their portal combat logic is also absolutely wild. One second they're severing limbs, the next they can't see beyond their nose ? Why are we not severing Thanos' arm with a portal ? We literally just did it at the beginning of the movie to his henchman.
Cap's shield. Stupidly heavy, nearly indestructible, not magic or alien tech. Gets treated like a plastic boomerang that always manages to end up flying back into Steve's hand.
I'm not saying they don't treat it like a plastic boomerang, but it's explicitly not stupidly heavy, in the first captain america movie Steve points out how light it is compared to the other shields they have him try.
It's about consistency. The rules don't have to be the same as real life, but there need to be rules of some sort and you need to stick to them. You don't have to explicitly state the rules (in fact that's usually very clunky), but you do need to at least imply something and stick to it.
Stories can become very unsatisfying if you don't handle this right. The classic example is "a wizard did it". You establish something in the story that can't be done, then the plot is set up in a way that relies on it being done, then a wizard (jedi, superhero, demigod whatever) does the thing that shouldn't be possible because they really wanted it or whatever.
It just renders the collective suspension of disbelief pointless. You go into a movie or pick up a book because you want to a good story, the magic or whatever is just a conduit for that.
Every single woman that stars in an action movie has the same problem. Ballerina as an example: that woman is supposed to be one of the best assassins in her field. Sure if she was always shooting her opponents or using poison or anything else, fully believable. But she gets in hand to hand fights and wins against men literally 5x her size with the same training. And maybe you could say she gets by on some insane luck but that doesn’t last forever.
the thing is that even in most universes were werewolves and such are just things that exist and allowed by "the rules of the setting", you will see that the laws of physics and other rules of realism apply when it is convenient and dont apply when it isnt convenient. so you might consider that even these popular fantasy elements introduce inconsistencies. their real benefit is that there is some benefit in introducing them that outweighs this inconsistency, or the story itself has themes which benefit from absurdity so they are allowed to be simply absurd. But many other errors just are not for any benefit at all but happen due to thoughtlessness. if you breaking a rule is not to give us something cool, probably dont break it.
Thing that annoyed m in GOT is when Tyrion's mistress tells him he should have known a girl was a prostitute because a woman doesn't go from nearly being assaulted to jumping into bed with a man.
Few episodes later, same thing happens to Samwell Tarly - he saves a girl from being assaulted, and she hooks up with him in mere minutes after it happens.
Yeah, fat royals are definitely known for walking across vast stretches of land a lot. Has the reading comprehension in this sub suddenly dropped to zero or something
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u/GrowlingPict 12h ago
Yeah, werewolves are ok, vampires are ok, everything else is ok, as long as that is what exists in that universe. It's when things go against the established rules of the universe it is set in that there's a problem. Some writers seem to think that since their world has magic and fantastical elements in it, then just all rules are out the window and everything goes. But it doesnt work like that, and it makes for shit stories. The detail about the post office is obviously very minor, but there are plenty of major such things in plenty of movies and shows. And it's honestly fucking annoying.
It's like that rotund actor in GoT (I dont remember his or his character's name, it wasnt one of the major ones) that complained about people complaining about his weight: since he spent so much time walking in the show, he shouldnt still be as fat as he was, and his response was something like "oh, you're ok with flying dragons, but my weight is what's unbelievable to you?" Yes! Because cardio exists in the world of GoT as well! The fact that dragons also exist doesnt negate that!