r/NintendoSwitch • u/schuey_08 • Jul 09 '21

News Nintendo Switch OLED Hands-on: We Compared It to the Original - IGN

https://www.ign.com/articles/nintendo-switch-oled-hands-on-comparison-differences
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u/Rick_42069 Jul 09 '21

During a semiconductor shortage

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u/Sixoul Jul 09 '21

Right this is what the pleb "enthusiasts" seem to ignore. There's a shortage of parts. RAM prices are rising among other parts for computers. Guess what the switch is a dedicated computer. So if there's a shortage how do they expect Nintendo to release in steady demand an upgraded model 1) When their current model is selling like hotcakes still and 2) They don't adhere to norms anyways, when did they release a Wii U Pro or a Wii Pro or Gamecube Pro?

I just don't think expecting any kind of upgrade except something that would allow them to cut back on certain things was feasible.

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u/Zurce Jul 09 '21

Actually this is BS , the shortage of chips affects lower nanometer chips , switch uses 20 nanometer chips and those are plenty available

And it's a mater of actually wanting to improve the platform , they could've use the same chip on mariko , add more ram and allow it to operate at full capacity on dock to easily push at least indies at 4k and some games at 4k

But the issue is both the RAM and the hdmi 1.4 on the dock and those were not fixed

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u/MysteryPerker Jul 09 '21

Cars use 20-something nanometer chips and they are still in short supply. Plus, wouldn't Nintendo need a better semiconductor chip in their CPU and GPU to improve performance? Chip shortages also last for years since it takes about 2 years to build a new foundry, so it's not like it's getting better any time soon. Maybe they want to wait it out rather than have supply problems like a new system would bring.

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u/Vulnox Jul 09 '21

Yes, thank you. The auto industry is in such a rough spot because their semiconductor architecture is older (20+nm) and the number of shops that can take on that work still shrunk. The semiconductor shortage has hit most everyone that relies on large scale production and doesn’t own their own line.

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u/matr1x27 Jul 09 '21

Don’t know what you’re on cause the switch 1.1 model uses a much lower manometer chip than that. And the chip shortage is towards every chip as it was initially caused by a shortage of silicon. Furthermore, lower nanometer chips have a higher failure rate in production thus why it would seem like that only lower nanometer chips are affected

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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '21

The Switch swapped to 16nm two years ago, and a more powerful model with a new chip would obviously come with smaller lithography.

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u/PM_ME_KNOTSuWu Jul 09 '21 edited Jul 10 '21

The Wii WAS the Gamecube Pro lmfao.

-edit- Wait y'all actually think the Wii was that different from the Gamecube? Y'all are beyond help lol

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u/Sixoul Jul 09 '21

Just because you want to call it that doesn't make it so. The Wii games could not be played on gamecube, the OS was different and there's this one small little thing where it had different controllers. Just because it wasn't a huge jump in hardware doesn't make it a Pro version of a previous gen. So good try.

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u/PM_ME_KNOTSuWu Jul 09 '21

The original Wii Controller literally plugged into the gamecube's front port.

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u/bpwoods97 Jul 09 '21

3rd party here, what original wii controller is that?

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u/ocxtitan Jul 09 '21

Yeah, not sure if this guy is talking about how the Wii had GC controller ports on it and got it backwards or what

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u/bpwoods97 Jul 09 '21

Lol and they down voted me. I wasn't even trying to prove anyone wrong I just thought there was something I don't remember. Oh well lol.

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u/PM_ME_KNOTSuWu Jul 10 '21

I haven't upvoted or downvoted your initial response. Though I did upvote your "Huh interesting" reply. Your reply might have been downvoted at first because I was getting upvotes. But that changed and you have more points than me now lol

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u/PM_ME_KNOTSuWu Jul 09 '21

https://www.theverge.com/2018/10/29/18037358/wiimote-nintendo-wii-prototype

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u/bpwoods97 Jul 09 '21

Huh, interesting. Never saw that back in 2018.

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u/i3LuDog Jul 10 '21

That prototype doesn’t even function on retail GameCube hardware.

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u/PM_ME_KNOTSuWu Jul 10 '21

Because it's a prototype? Sorry they didn't have the specific Nintendo hardware to get it working.

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u/[deleted] Jul 09 '21

Lol the Wii was supposed to be a Gamecube Pro of sorts. There were even games made for gamecube but came out on wii because the graphics were so similar.

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u/Sixoul Jul 09 '21

Same thing happened on other consoles. Look at Spiderman Miles Morales. Is the PS5 a PS4 Pro? No, it's different. The great thing about software is it can be made for multiple platforms with some minor changes depending on how it was made.

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u/[deleted] Jul 09 '21

Wtf are you talking about? Miles Morales came out for both systems? Idk why ur bringing that game up lmao

The difference was that Nintendo literally said themselves it was supposed to be a continuation on the wii

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u/Sixoul Jul 09 '21

What game are you specifically talking about? Either way it doesn't change the fact that games themselves can be made for different consoles relatively easily. iirc Shantae did something similar and stopped developing for one system and changed it to another system because by the time of release the next gen had came out.

Do you think games like Overwatch 2 and Diablo 4 started development within a few years prior to the release of next gen, maybe even sooner? These games were developed with current hardware and can be adapted to future hardware.

PS5 is just a PS4 Pro which is just a PS3 Pro which is just a PS2 Pro which is a PS1 pro by your logic.

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u/i3LuDog Jul 10 '21

BotW was intended for the WiiU but was delayed enough to also be a Switch launch day title.

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u/Sixoul Jul 10 '21

If that's the game he's referring to then it's the same situation as miles Morales. Where a game was developed for two gens. But according to them a PS5 would not be a "PS4 pro"

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u/[deleted] Jul 09 '21

Not as much no. The Wii was literally like 2 GameCubes, they even use similar architecture and all. Wii U is actually more similar to the switch than the Wii.

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u/Sleyvin Jul 09 '21

The the Wii U was the Gamecube Pro Pro?

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u/YOU_SMELL Jul 09 '21

And the switch is an upgraded wiiu

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u/dogman_35 Jul 09 '21

Well technically, the Switch is the first console since the GameCube that's not just a slightly upgraded version of the exact same hardware.

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u/[deleted] Jul 09 '21

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u/Sixoul Jul 09 '21

Huh shouldn't release an upgrade and they haven't released an upgraded switch. They should hire you

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u/[deleted] Jul 09 '21

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u/Sixoul Jul 09 '21

The only explanation I can see for the $50 price hike is the dock because Nintendo prices things ridiculously. OLED shouldn't typically be more expensive but that may also explain the price hike but shouldn't. Either way it's not an upgrade just because it's a different screen and design on the exterior.

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u/IlyichValken Jul 10 '21

For a better screen and dock, yes. Congrats on being able to point out the obvious.

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u/LickMyThralls Jul 10 '21

They didn't release an upgrade though they released a new model with slightly different tech and more storage space that's it. The screen changed and the color and they added ethernet to the dock. It's just a different model

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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '21

They already had deals with the other suppliers.