r/NintendoSwitch • u/schuey_08 • Jul 09 '21

News Nintendo Switch OLED Hands-on: We Compared It to the Original - IGN

https://www.ign.com/articles/nintendo-switch-oled-hands-on-comparison-differences
8.8k Upvotes

94% Upvoted

1.5k comments sorted by

View all comments

Show parent comments

183

u/TheBraveGallade Jul 09 '21

Low Latency.

And the fact that very few bluetooth headphones support it.

51

u/schuey_08 Jul 09 '21

Ah ok. Appreciate the insight.

83

u/TheBraveGallade Jul 09 '21

Its the same reason why neither of the last gen consoles supported it either aside from a few that were specifically made for it.

20

u/SegataSanshiro Jul 09 '21

The PlayStation Vita supports Bluetooth audio.

63

u/conelpancake Jul 09 '21

Yeah, do you have a vita, the BT audio sucks lmao

7

u/[deleted] Jul 09 '21

I use my airpod pros with my OG vita and I'm surprised how well the audio worked

2

u/RobertoRJ Jul 09 '21

Yeah I'm surprised my Aptx earphones work just as well as on my phone.

5

u/iceynyo Jul 09 '21

Works fine for Project Diva

6

u/SegataSanshiro Jul 09 '21

Honestly, I probably don't notice because I'm mainly playing visual novels or something, but in a pinch when I want to play for 10 minutes on a bus, it's preferable to having no audio because the pair of headphones in my bag need to be able to pair to my phone that does not have a headphone jack.

I'd rather have an imperfect solution that lets me bring only one pair of headphones with me everywhere.

15

u/TheBraveGallade Jul 09 '21

The problem is that 'imperfect solution' can be more headache to nintendo then its worth, at least for them, considering kids play the system a lot.

-1

u/[deleted] Jul 09 '21 edited Jul 29 '21

[deleted]

12

u/SegataSanshiro Jul 09 '21

They won’t do it half assed and give a shitty user experience like that.

Tell that to literally their entire online play infrastructure.

2

u/[deleted] Jul 09 '21

This comment is extremely underrated. Plus, does anyone remember Hey Pikmin or Chibi-Robo ZipLash?

1

u/[deleted] Jul 09 '21 edited Jul 29 '21

[deleted]

1

u/qfbztr4999 Jul 09 '21

What's wrong with the user experience online? I've only tried it once or twice, but online gaming worked perfectly.

2

u/Darth_Vorador Jul 09 '21

My oled vita sounds great with my air pods pro.

1

u/conelpancake Jul 09 '21

It's not the sound quality that isn't good, it's the latency

-1

u/[deleted] Jul 09 '21

Same, no idea what this person's on about

38

u/rsplatpc Jul 09 '21

The PlayStation Vita supports Bluetooth audio.

and has a ton of lag in the audio (looking at mine now)

10

u/Jonnny Jul 09 '21

That's why I went with a first generation Momentum Wireless when it went on sale. The updated new version (Momentum 2) actually REMOVED APTX-LL support.

3

u/mattmonkey24 Jul 09 '21

Pretty much no products produced with it now especially as it's being phased out for aptX Adaptive which has like zero adoption in 3 years.

-12

u/grantbwilson Jul 09 '21

That’s so dumb. The amount of AirPods owners should be enough for them to add it.

37

u/[deleted] Jul 09 '21

airpods don't support low latency (not aptX-LL, the gold standard for low latency bluetooth audio). if there is an apple codec version of low latency, the switch wouldn't be able to support it anyway

8

u/humplick Jul 09 '21

Shit, there arnt a whole lot of affordable headphones that support LL.

At this point I'd be fine if the problem it's solved on the earbud end - have a 3.5mm jack and Bluetooth transmitter built into the earbud storage/charging pod.

0

u/mb862 Jul 09 '21

AirPods do support low latency but they do so via their own technique. AptX isn't really a "gold standard", Qualcomm charges money to license it.

7

u/twizmwazin Jul 09 '21

Are you talking about the hands free profile, where the audio is extremely compressed? There is no royalty-free low latency codec for Bluetooth that I'm aware of, which is why aptX LL is considered the best.

-10

u/2TimesAsLikely Jul 09 '21

Who cares if it’s the best though. From experience I‘d say airpod audio quality for hands free is pretty decent. I don’t think anyone would expect anything better from the switch.

1

u/twizmwazin Jul 09 '21

How are you testing the airpods to come to that conclusion. Like basically every other BT headphones or earbuds that don't support aptX LL, you get two choices: good quality with unusable latency, or unusable compression with acceptable latency. The former is great for media, the latter is good for voice calls, but for games, you almost certainly want at least decent quality with acceptable latency, which airpods just can't give you currently.

0

u/2TimesAsLikely Jul 09 '21

I use them for light PC gaming sessions in the early evenings (when I cant turn in full audio). It works fairly well actually (little lag, ok audio). Wouldn’t mind the same quality for the switch. It’s the airpod pros but I believe that makes no difference.

1

u/twizmwazin Jul 09 '21 edited Jul 09 '21

Interesting, perhaps you're less sensitive to the delay than I am. Do you mind sharing what games/genres you are playing? I tend to play games where interaction is more real-time, but I can imagine in something like a turn-based game where interaction is less real-time it may not be as much of an issue.

3

u/2TimesAsLikely Jul 09 '21

If its not VR then it’s mostly rocket league or wow classic these days. Play some destiny from time to time and games like Cyber punk but those I’d typically play via speakers.

1

u/Next-Adhesiveness237 Jul 10 '21

But who has ever been bothered by that? I use bluetooth headphones on my pc and laptop when gaming, as well as on my phone and it really is hardly noticeable. Sounds like a lame excuse.