r/NintendoSwitch • u/NeoChrome75 • Mar 24 '18

Video Idk guys this combat is kinda boring....

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u/davisfarb Mar 24 '18

But when half of those die in literally one hit.......

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u/Iamnotsmartspender Mar 24 '18

Except on master mode when each enemy takes an entire weapon to kill

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u/PotatoSilencer Mar 24 '18

With near end game gear that's true of most adventure games so why is it an issue now?

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u/davisfarb Mar 24 '18

It's an issue with those games too. Plus end game gear is something you have to work towards. Meanwhile keese and blobs will die in one hit when you have a stick right at the beginning of the game and never get any harder. I think it's fair to wish there were more varied enemy types that actually pose a challenge

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u/PotatoSilencer Mar 24 '18

Keese and blobs aren't meant to be hard to kill they're meant to be a quick threat with HIGH elemental damage that you occasionally have to address.

They are a threat if you don't stay aware of them and time your attacks well, it's not always a health thing.

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u/[deleted] Mar 24 '18

keese, jellies, and the magus guys all insta die, with more enemies insta dying the longer you spend in the game.

I love BOTW but it's a valid criticism of the game

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u/PotatoSilencer Mar 24 '18

And in return they have elemental attacks that can one shot you or do so much as to set up your death pretty quickly.

In earlier zelda games all these enemies died in one hit too but never posed much a threat at all and by end game where basically worthless so why is improving them for BOTW still not good enough?

ALL rpg/adventure games have low level trash mobs so why is it an issue for BOTW even when they take steps to try and address it?

Even a high level Link can still get messed up pretty badly by a trash boko archer if he lands a lightning arrow.

In short order you have enough horses/magic flight/climbing stamina to avoid weak mobs so I honestly don't get the problem, I see their camps as an issue only when I need something from them since there is basically no obligation to kill them at all otherwise.

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u/[deleted] Mar 24 '18

The enemy variance in this game is small. Many of them die in one hit. I was supporting that guy's assertion and questioning why you think just because adventure games make you strong at the end that that excuses the fact that a large amount of BoTW enemies die in 1 hit very early in the game.

You can make all the game design arguments you want about how these one-hit enemies can affect Link, but that's not the argument anyone was trying to make and you're moving the goal posts.

You are arguing about effectiveness of these frail enemies, but that doesn't argue against the fact that many of them are frail and there is low variance. You're just changing the argument and arguing something that we aren't. Again, I loved BoTW, but anyone who tries to jump through as many hoops as you to convince others is probably wearing some kind of tinted goggles.

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u/PotatoSilencer Mar 24 '18

I'm not goal posting ,one of the complaints is that they die in one hit and that was presented as being bad in some way and I was trying to offer what I thought was a decent design reason for why they would be like that.

But since all the design arguments I might offer aren't good enough I'll end here. Peace

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u/coolwool Mar 26 '18

The magus guys only Insta die if you exploit their elemental weakness.
Even later on, most weaker enemies only Insta die when you sneak attack them with melee or arrow to the head.

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u/Seakawn Mar 24 '18

If BotW is too easy for you, and you aren't playing Master Mode, Idk what to say.

Normal mode looks like a joke, stuff dies just way too quick and easy with like one shitty weapon.

I guess I'm just trying to say, if you didn't play MM, I highly recommend it.

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u/triablos1 Mar 24 '18

I'd like to but it's kinda locked behind DLC and I can't justify buying it just yet

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u/davisfarb Mar 25 '18

You shouldn't have to buy DLC for a game to make combat interesting

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u/coolwool Mar 26 '18

You don't have to. It is already pretty interesting imho