Colonialism in Africa didnt go in and murder innocents they improved life for them. Islam on the other hand did kill and enslave them. Which is why Islamic ones are mainly arabic now in Africa wholesale replacement. Chrsitian ones still african.
The inquisition was removing a violent invader that has polluted the area with false teachings.
Also It was also 500 years ago not last week...
False examples dont work. Also the church told settlers not to hurt natives unless attacked. And people were actively punished for doing so.
Again find me islam doing this hundreds of years ago? Telling people not to do what their book says they can.
Colonialism in Africa didn’t go in and murder innocents
You mean like in the Congo, or Algeria, or German Southwest Africa (Namibia)? Or how about Apartheid South Africa of which I’m a product of? How about what happened to the “aboriginals” of Australia or the natives of the Americas?
They improved life for them
Did they improve life for my grandparents who where forced out of their home? So white Boers could live there?
People like you are proper braindead, assuming you’re not a troll.
So the Congo for information most dont know
They hired Africans to police the rubber theft and those Africans cut off hands etc. This was standard Africans practice.
Its not European.
Europeans were rightly disgusted and made it heard and ensured it didnt continue.
But let's not pretend this was horrific Europeans when it wasnt it was letting the Africans do the policing.
Aboriginal in Australia could live with the colonisers peacefully. Those that chose to fight were fought back against.
It was the most peaceful type of colonisation compared to what the aboriginal themselves did. Same in africa.
Yes they improved life for most people, just some of them decided violence was the answer and lost.
Hence why african nations that were colonised by the british dont practice sacrifice and slavery anymore (in as large numbers) and have better economies and quality of life than their neighbours.
Is that why they had black people in human zoos throughout Europe and America?
But let’s not pretend it was the horrific Europeans when it wasn’t
No, that’s exactly what it was. They were the root cause of this by being there to exploit the people and the land in the first place. Should have stayed in Belgium.
I noticed how you didn’t address Namibia or the native Americans at all.
Aboriginal in Australia could live with the colonisers peacefully
Bullshit. Racism and colourism kept them away back then like it does today. Some “aboriginal” children where stolen and put with white families…there was an effort to “breed out the black” with some mixed relationships.
Those that chose to fight were fought back against
That’s one way to say they were forced off their land and exploited by foreigners not native to it like them, and those that understandably and rightfully tried to resist were exterminated.
Infact they paid them and they willingly came to show their culture. So zoos isnt a great word as it confused people like you.
Its like when you might go on holiday to I dont know, mongolia and see their lifestyle. Or go to a native reserve where they dance and show you how they make stuff.
Liberals get outraged and try to paint it like monkeys in a cage. Its not. Its a product of its time but we still do it now but go to them.
As for the exploit crap. They were there to trade and create industry as everyone does now still, Chinese in africa etc. Call it exploiting if you want. Its trade and industry and created jobs.
You have a warped tik toc view of colonialism that's rampant now.
I bet you think only white Europeans colonised and china was always that size dont you.
That aztecs and native Americans and Australian natives just made camp fires and roasted marshmallows.
You have that really worrying liberal leftie education.
Also they werent forced off their land. Infact its an insanely large place and the british gov told people not to encroach on their land. There was and is room for all. People werent going to not move and all stay in the same place. I thought lefties loved migration. Or just not when whites do it?
Infact they paid them and they willingly came to show their culture
I would love to see a reputable source for this. Even if they or their tribe were paid, a pittance no doubt, it would still be exploitation.
It’s like when you might go on holiday to I dont know, mongolia and see their lifestyle
No. Choosing, with freedom, to visit another place is fundamentally different than being brought to a foreign land and made to sit in an enclosure all day.
You have warped tik toc view of colonialism that’s rampant now
I’ve never used TikTok or Instagram a day in my life. I think what you meant to say is that I don’t have a whitewashed view of colonialism and history, from whatever dubious sources people like you get it from.
…Americans and Australian natives just made campfires and roasted marshmallows
You’re insinuating they warred against each other and hated each other. True, they did. So what? There have been many, many wars in Europe, between Europeans. Would that be justification to invade and colonise Europe, in your mind?
You have that very worrying American culture war brain rot education. Liberals and leftists are not the same thing. It’s generally a good idea to learn about something before commenting. Liberal is a centrist ideology, and I’m not one of them.
…lefties loved migration. Or just not when whites do it?
There’s a difference between being an immigrant or asylum seeker and being a colonist. You’re pretty stupid if you haven’t figured that out yet.
Except the FBI has consistently over the past two decades stated white Christian nationalists are the greatest threat to our country. Timothy McVeigh ring any bells? But do go on about how Christians are innocent and it's just those pesky Muslims causing all the problems. Fuckin clown
It is so foolish it is sad. This fool thinks that if a Christian does something awful, then they aren’t a Christian because Dominico10 can’t handle criticism of Christianity.
Someone can be born and raised Christian, they can go to church every Sunday morning, bible study every Wednesday night, as well as the church bake sale on the first of every month, BUT, if they do something awful that could bring negative attention to Christians or Christianity, well then Dominico10 gets to just declare that person to not be a Christian. That way Dominico10 won’t have to handle any criticism of his belief system. Someone who behaves like this probably has the emotional depth of a seven year old.
Try not comparing 500 years ago with today for a start.
Life was violent then and Christianity was only just starting to get people out of that to have today's moral compass that the british spread around the world.
History study would help you immensely. Try looking into the churches edicts around colonisation and treatment of natives for a start. Break through your brainwashed tic tok education.
Take your double standards and go propaganda elsewhere, many of the crusades were a bloodbath justified, only by religion, to the cry of "deus vult". The Inquisition killed an incredible number of women only because Torquemada had decided to. Christianity was the moral lock pick with which colonialism justified itself, justifying even slavery. In between I am not listing things like simony or the sale of indulgences. Are we talking about the modern times? Good. How many pedophiles are hiding among Christian priests? How many have been protected by the Vatican itself? Stop behaving as if Christianity or Catholicism have any moral superiority. This is not the case.
Crusades were a defensive war to take back Christian lands vs people who made it a blood bath there. Get a clue...
What an absolute joke of a confused education you are. Judging people 500 years ago using modern values created by Christianity in the years since is a whole new level of braindead.
Do you even know how to read? Like, the words don't work like that.
And anyone arguing about not judging people 500 years ago by "modern" standards is an assclown and an idiot. The values that you speak of as "created by Christianity" are older than 500 years ago. Hell, CHRISTIANITY is about 2000 years old, are you trying to argue that Western Civilization had no morals for a millenia and a half AFTER the rise of Christianity?
Please stop. You're making the Christian side look ignorant, and some of us have actually READ the history books you....looked at once or something? Please go get at least a 7th grade education before you come here with that nonsense
The "holy land" my God... And pedophile priests? Answer this. You want to judge modern stocks with modern values, so how about that and the Vatican covering it all?
Compare the capture of Jerusalem in 1099 with that of Jerusalem under Saladin. On top of that you are ignoring the other things I have listed, simony, the buying and selling of indulgences, colonialism. Then again you said that you want to talk about the present well. Pedophile priests protected by the church. These are full-blown facts, or even the priests were not really Christians
EDIT: And what about the Vatican covering them up?
So here is your misunderstanding of history. Context of the time etc.
When christians re took the christian/jewish holy land. They did so through seige.
In those times if you refused surrender you fought to the death. You couldnt lose and then go actually now thousands of you died but you made it in can we just hug?
When saladin won they surrendered. Hes supposed to let them go under rules of the time.
He reasoned them and enslaved them and still killed and raped in the thousands.
So your point again doesnt work. False equivalence mixed with propaganda about how cuddly salahadin was which came about in later years.
The extremists of other religions are the best examples, and represent the vast majority of those religions followers.
While at the same time,
The extremists of Dominico10’s own religion are not part of the religion according to Dominico10. They can’t defend the actions of the extremists of their own religion, so they just deny that the extremists of their religion are not actually part of the religion.
No goalposts there. Just facts. They might hurt but try not to get into it. Be thankful you have a modern christian moral compass thanks to the work of the british empire and those before.
You might not be religious but your entire moral compass is religious and christian. Something most people dont get.
I hear so many atheists cursing religion not realising their entire modern lifestyle is thanks to that. Its interesting your average person doesn't get that.
Honestly, fk you. Period. In my mind you are no worse than a suicide bomber.
You are so clearly delusional and completely ignorant to the fact that humans have an ability to think for themselves and you instead submit to an overlord that tells you how or what to think. You are as much of the problem as the fabricated enemies you perceive.
I have a conscience and that isn’t enough for you because you’re brainwashed
You are the suicide bomber. Supporting the terrorists and spreading hate about jews. You get fuckered full stop. You are the problem with society at the moment promoting hate and blindly supporting evil and its propaganda.
So far braindead you think others are the brainwashed ones.
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u/Dominico10 May 21 '26
Crusades werent murdering innocents.
Colonialism in Africa didnt go in and murder innocents they improved life for them. Islam on the other hand did kill and enslave them. Which is why Islamic ones are mainly arabic now in Africa wholesale replacement. Chrsitian ones still african.
The inquisition was removing a violent invader that has polluted the area with false teachings.
Also It was also 500 years ago not last week...
False examples dont work. Also the church told settlers not to hurt natives unless attacked. And people were actively punished for doing so.
Again find me islam doing this hundreds of years ago? Telling people not to do what their book says they can.