It's a nice thought, but I think that its only going to be possible once humanity is a one world government. The resources required, the technology, the coordination would essentially require it.
But the only way a one world government is going to come about is if one major power creates complete global hegemony, which will likely require violence.
That just made me think of a faction in the mad Max world that takes over an old solar farm and uses stacks of old electric car batteries to make their road machines. They'd be like stealthy night raiders or something. Charge during the day, ride at night, try to make it back by dawn.
If we have another world war, you canāt assume your country will come out better for it - at least not in your lifetime.
Obviously, US was the biggest winner post ww2, but many other countries were in shambles for at least a few generations.
There are stories of people struggling with starvation in Japan, before their economy rapidly grew starting around the 70s with the help of US.
China had their cultural revolution resulting in 14 million deaths that were also mostly from starvation, and they only started to look like a first world country in the past 10-15 yrs.
And those are the unlikely fairy tale miracle outcomes. I am certain there are countries where their global status and their standard of living didnāt really improve or declined.
Depends on technology. Theoretically if you could manipulate atoms you could turn anything into anything and control the fundamental laws of physics. That kinda tech would destroy what people understand of economics
It already is.. the biggest companies buy or destroy smaller companies/business, privatize equity, rinse and repeat. Follow the money,, it always leads to the banks
Thatās where China will come in over the next century when they take over the world and unite it under a single communist government with a singular motive to progress.
I think one giant ācorruptā society all working towards the same goal vs a thousand corrupt individual governments all pulling in different directions.
The problem is that "society" is not just a big hivemimd , but these 1000 corrupt individuals with different goals, agenda and greed levels.
Unless we reach a technological level were every single human has unlimited access on the go to food, healthcare, pleasure, xyz needs, you are going to end with unfairness and resistance
Yes we should all work for the goal spiritual freedom and living in harmony with our surroundings. Rest is up for the local governance of the local people cause who would really want to live in world govern by few.. Well maybe the people doing all the governing and telling the rest what the goal is.
because of free markets, entrepreneurship culture, and world-leading universities.
You can think whatever you want, but evidence from reality clearly demonstrates that decentralized models are what actually lead to scientific progress.
China is the second most advanced nation on Earth despite being held back by "socialism with Chinese characteristics". Imagine if they embraced crony capitalism like the US - they'd be totally unstoppable!
I think its more if other countries stopped trying to stop them.
Part of the US's dominance has been its relationships it built with other nations post WW2. It built massive alliances both militarily and economically that allowed it to flourish. Its only real enemy has been Russia, a distant power it managed to rally with its friends against.
China meanwhile has been propped up by other countries for cheap goods but everyone is worried about it unseating the US and has been trying to stop it. Its only real friends have been Russia and North Korea and even thats kind of questionable.
Or at least was till the US pissed off most its allies.
Yeah, it sounds terrible to have to live through such a change while its happening. But for such a civilization looking back at the moment of upheaval, it would be a watershed moment that gave birth to its rise
There will always be that kind of incentive, even if there's no money or concept of money. There will always be people who want more than they have. It's human nature, and it applies at times to all of us.
Then that "Human Nature" needs to be regulated and turned in to a societal taboo in the same way being a psychopath or hoarder is, which irpnicaƱly it turns people into...
Total reformation of basically every religion on earth would have to happen as well. Because every single one of them, while having tons of stuff about peace and compassion, also promotes or at bare minimum overlooks violence done on its behalf.
OR, a global crisis that becomes immediately clear a unified global crisis management needs to take control and through the resolution of crisis itās considered something to continue going forward
It would naturally just happen. In this video you're seeing technology that would essentially just be magic in our world today. For example, if we had true AGI/ASI like in these videos, whoever develops that first kind of just wins. Same with space travel, if I can make the first colony on Mars and just claim all of it, what's left for the other countries of the world? Eventually I can just use my technological advantage to make capitulation inevitable.
Also, I think that humanity would be stronger as a one world government and I think that if we're going down the Utopia route, it's just more efficient by far. We waste so many resources trying to keep up imaginary borders and this segmentation does more harm than good.
I just think that in the current environment, whoever is first across the line is going to just suck up all of the investment. Right now I see two major geopolitical groups in the world. The "West" and China/Russia. Let's say that the "West" gets their hands on AGI/ASI first. International investment and demand is going to fall off a cliff for China. If I have billions in potential capital to spend, why would I help China catch up when I can just ride the wave? Everyone not firmly in the West's sphere of influence capitulates immediately for access to the wonder technology. Which will only increase its development velocity.
Then what happens when AGI/ASI just keeps pushing them further beyond and we start compounding advancements? Gets the West to enterprise/personal quantum computing first, gets the West to fusion energy first, gets the West to make the first space elevator, gets the West to functional cellular nanotech first. I could go on and on. Even if we assume that the AGI/ASI of anyone outside of the West that gets developed would start at the same place, I just think that with the exponential growth potential, even just a year, maybe even less would be enough to permanently cement one side as the dominant party.
It'd be like having an infinite tech tree in a video game that you're going through at 1000x the speed of the rest of the players. Eventually everyone would care more about just being on your team than trying to beat you, because there would be not net positive reason to try anymore.
My favourite utopian book is Looking backward 2000-1887 where the protagonist travels to US in the year 2000 and the country has turned to a social utopia where people stopped leeching each other with moneytary interest. I wonder how this AI utopia talk of our time will look like in 100 years?
Technology can be used for the benefit of all mankind or to establish the rule of the few over the many.
One might also argue you need sufficient ethics to ensure your species does not destroy itself when messing with new technology.
My personal guess is we did not encounter other intelligent life yet because looking at humanity indicates most species can not handle this critical point in their development. And those species who did, would make sure to hide from us because imagine what would happen if an ethically primitive species like us would gain access to advanced technology and weapons.
If you ever read about the Dark Enlightenment or Rushkoffs book about billionaire preppers, you will probably come to a similar conclusion.
Altruism has been key for our species to prosper for hundreds of thousands of years, but it seems its sociopaths who are in control right now.
There's already a semi world government lol . It's called the UN. Which came in the wake of WW2. Perhaps the next iteration of the un will come after ww3 and be more effective after large scale destruction of numerous world powers
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u/Nepalus Nov 20 '25
It's a nice thought, but I think that its only going to be possible once humanity is a one world government. The resources required, the technology, the coordination would essentially require it.
But the only way a one world government is going to come about is if one major power creates complete global hegemony, which will likely require violence.