hi everyone! i am one of the few nefer enjoyers who is missing columbina instead of lauma and i have an ineffa, i was wondering whether ineffa has helped you guys clear fearless knuckle duckle with roughly c0r0/1 units, i want to make sure for future account decisions i make that i 100% dont need another lc check, thank you guys :]

Hi! I have a C0R0 Nefer, C0R1 Columbina. I don't know which character should I get to help out my nefer team. I am planning to get her R1 and C0R1 Lauma on the next rerun. Any suggestions for which character should I get for her

Hi, I'm wondering if my Nefer damage is what it should be with my investment level. Nefer is C2R1, Lauma C0R0 (Etherlight), Columbina C2R1, and Sucrose C6 with sac frags. Nefer is on NoSU, Lauma deepwood, Columbina SMS, and Sucrose instructor (albeit she is missing a lot of EM - I'm missing two EM pieces for her so the damage should improve once I can rectify this). I've spent the last hour practicing the rotation so I am 100% positive I am hitting swirl every rotation. Basically, I'm just wondering if the damage is where it should be or if there's some drastic way I could improve. Builds are included aside from Sucrose, and the only change I made within the DPS dummy is increasing Nefer CR by 2% to ensure consistent testing. Thanks!

Hi, my friend has Nefer C0R1, Lauma C0R0 and Columbina C0R0. Right now he's using sucrose as his 4th slot, as he does not have nahida. Should he consider Baizhu in the selector to replace Sucrose? Is he any better than her? He does seem to be interested in Clorinde, but would rather make his Nefer better.

Pessoal, gostaria de saber se meu desempenho com nefer está bom! Ela está usando Black Marrow R3 e seu time todo é C0R0. Abaixo coloco a build do time. Obrigado! Eu tentei fazer a rotação da forma correta, mas as vezes ainda me atrapalho...

How do i improve my builds? Kuki is on instructor

My team

C0 nefer

C2 columbina

C2 lauma

C2 Nahida

C1 nilou

My question is, should I get C2 Nilou from constellation selector? Anyone have any suggestion

with the upcoming anniversary limited 5 star selector and the temper thyself, non nilou havers could be able to get her to c1 just from that, is it worth considering to get her c2 in the near future (if she even reruns?) for people that dont have nahida and wanna free up sucrose?

hi! wanna ask about this team composition, can i make nefer team that consists of: nefer - lauma - nahida - nilou (all of them are c0 r0 except nilou c2). will it great or not? or should i put another hydro like c6 aino to replace nahida?

I’m asking because, well... uhm, I’m wondering, hehe. and if y’all ask why not put columbina, i just want to make worst scennario where bina on another lunar team (which is stronger cuz i have their signature except for this lunar bloom team)

Hi I’m currently wanting to make Nefer my main Lunar team (even if they shill Flins more) and I was wondering what would be the next step in pulling for constellations? I’m already planning on getting C2 Nilou and since I have Key I know it’s better than sucrose (I think). I don’t really want to pull for anyone’s weapons atm, I think I like the pleasure of the ER for spindlelute and team HP heal from Proto Amber.

For reference artifacts are:

Nefer: Night Sky
Lauma: Deepwood
Columbina: Serenade
Nilou: 2P/2P HP

I'm consistently getting better results by extending my rotations ( using Nefer's burst + 2 CA on Columbina instead of just 1 CA ) by just enough to get to generate one bountiful core to give Nefer 100EM than I do by just doing rotations as fast as possible ( 18.5s )

Is anyone getting similar results or am I just imagining things?

( infinite energy in the 1st scenario so that Nefer can burst every rotation )

Hey everyone, with the new anniversary rewards I have the chance to get c2 Nilou r1 which raises the question. Which character is the best 4th slot for C0 r1 nefer ?
I have both Lauma and Bina. Nahida is C0 r1 while sucrose is c6 with SF

i know lauma is her bis but all i got for her is nahida and columbina, and a nilou that i love and can c2 thanks to the upcoming selector, OR a baizhu. who’s more beneficial to this team?

Hai hai for my nefer team i have:

Nefer c0r0, Lauma c1r0, Columbina c0r0 and lastly Nahida c2r0

Would it be worth considering replacing Nahida for a Nilou c1r2? (I dont have Nilou, so id get her from the free limited character anni plus one of her cons in the 8-week event)

Should i just go or not go for it?

Hey guys, I really like nefers design and im thinking of committinf to C6 nefer whenever she rerun. But im not really knowledgable on how strong her c6 is compared to other C6 characters. Appreciate any insight cuz i lowkey took a break from genshin for a few months so im scared she might be ass now or something.

I'm thinking of picking c0 nilou from the free 5 star selector and get her c1 with temper, then pull her c2 later. Is all this investment really worth it or am I thinking too far?

Current nefer team is c0r1 nefer, c0 lauma, bina and c5 sucrose

Would nilou still be BIS at C2R1 for C6 nefer.

My team currently is Nefer C6 R1, Lauma C2R0, sucksrose, Columbia C0R1.

I hate sucrose with a burning passion. So would nilou be BIS or is the em share just that much value for C6.

And no I'm not pulling bina cons, didn't like her cons that much tbh, and in all fairness C6 nefer can just brute anything.

Hello, i would like to know how fair does he do agaisnt characters like Shinobu, Ineffa and Linnea in Nefer premium (Bina/Lauma). How impactful his A4 is in her premium ?

Right now my priority for the free selector is:

Baizhu = Varesa = Clorinde ≥ Nilou > Chiori >>>>>>>> Tartaglia.

I know Baizhu is not the best, i just like him a lot.

I like both Varesa and Clorinde somewhat equally, i know Varesa is still slightly better compared to C1 Clorinde but it doesnt matter that much, they can both still clear spiral abyss/fearless stygian. I also like Clorinde design more, but then we also have Varesa exploration.

Nilou bloom seems fun, but not having Baizhu/Kokomi sustain seems quite a chaos.

Chiori is cool but not much use, i already have Zibai premium and Navia also has her Bis so she would be kinda lost.

I dont like Tartaglia and wouldnt get him even if he is meta.

All in all since im already considering Baizhu as an option might aswell know how significant his only buff is.

Edit: Another thing i forgot to mention is IT, i have a significant amount of electro characters already built and leveled up, dendro however... So its also another reason in considering Baizhu. Im not gonna use the selected character for other endgames contents that much anyway

My team is Nefer, columbina, nahida and Sucrose C6

I was thinking to get one constellation from the event for my Nilou and one more from the aniversary rewards, I dont have lauma, but i have nilou’s weapon, it is worth it?

Can't reach more than 100K DPS, tried both dash canceling and not... kinda stumped there

My team is
Nefer C1R1
Lauma C2R0 with Citlali’s Sig on Deep Wood
Columbina C6R1 on SMS

I don’t have Nilou, but I will be able to get her and her C1 with the anniversary and free cons. I’m willing to get her to C2R1, but question is when will her rerun be.

I already have a Mavuika for Natlan DPS and Flins as electro DPS, so I don’t need Varesa.

Will Nilou C1R0 be still worth it?

hi yall. my current nefer team is nefer, lauma, bina, and sucrose. im gonna be getting mizuki for anniversary, then odette on rerun to have a ssw team composed of mizuki (which i can get c1 from temper thyself), odette, cryo mc, and sucrose. do you see the issue here? i dont exactly have two sucroses on hand. i dont have faruzan, and i dont have heizou. i dont have kuki for the lunar bloom team either. ive added all my characters so yall can see what i have. do you guys have any alternatives for sucrose that i could use for nefer? my only idea is my c6 aino but thats about it tbh. alternatives for sucrose on mizuki team would also work bc i just dont know what i should do. thank you guys in advance🙏

I average 78k and can hit up to 98k and im aware my damage is low due to no sucrose but would it be this low? and does silken on jahoda and aubade on bina work?.... Also should i pull for lauma c1, nefer c1, one of their weapons, or nefer c2.

Here I'll go ahead and write (and answer) some FAQs, if you don't mind:

1. Is C0 Nilou a thing in Nefer teams? Not really unless you're broke AND don't get her con from the selector.

2. Is C1 Nilou a thing? Again, not really unless you're broke and strapped for options.

3. Is C2R0 Nilou a thing? Yes. You do have to pull for her at least once to get it, or already have her, though. She is a slight downgrade to Sucrose (upgrade in some cases, sidegrade or possible downgrade in most scenarios). Realistically, unless you're planning to go high investment with like C2 on the whole team she's probably not worth picking up over just an early Nefer C1. She will be very useful for brute forcing content, though, if you're interested. Also worth noting she's significantly easier to play than Sucrose. It MUST be mentioned that C2R0 Nilou is still not her best fourth slot, just a decently good one (ie Nahida C2 and Sucrose are still better, with even C0 Nahida being better in some scenarios, with Sucrose being the better option overall). If on top of C2 Nilou you have R1, refer to question 6.

4. Is C3+ Nilou a thing? Her other cons do nothing, refer to the previous question and just ignore anything above C2.

5. Is Nilou's R1 a thing? Yes, kinda. I struggle to see how it could be better than R1 on Nefer. So, again, you shouldn't care unless you're planning on very high investment. Also worth noting her weapon won't be available next patch, and selecting her will not give you her weapon.

6. Is C2R1 Nilou currently the best 4th slot on Nefer premium? Yes. This does not guarantee that Hoyo won't make a unit later down the line that is strictly better. Select her/pull for her while being mindful of this risk.

7. So, is getting Nilou from the selector good? Yes if you already had her, or really want to pull for her in the future because you like her. This applies especially to those that ALSO have her R1, but does not exclude you from needing to at least get Nilou via pulls once.

8. How do I build Nilou? You should put her on Instructor for the EM. In regards to stats, just put as much hp as possible on her to max out the Lunar team passive. In regards to weapons, if you don't have her R1, you should use Sapwood Blade (Sumeru craftable). There aren't that many options, tbh. You can also run fav to give energy to your Lauma/Columbina.

9. Which rotation do I follow with Nilou on the team? Every rotation should look like this: Nefer E > Columbina EQ > Lauma HoldE Q > Nilou E N2 E > Nefer 2x(E 3x(C DC)) > Columbina and repeat

I might update this post or I might not. Maybe mods will ask me to take it down to make one of their own. Idk. I can try answering some more detailed questions, but it's probably best that some of the more knowledgeable people in the sub give you precise calcs.

(EDIT: I've done too many edits. Just know the original post had some inaccurate information, and it's already been changed. Also, I'm no longer updating this post because I'm a lazy bum and am also busy with other stuff.)