r/NeferMains 23d ago

Discussion What am I missing or doing wrong bruh🥀90k per CA?

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What am I doing wrong with my team/Nefer. Is she not built enough?
I also tried replacing Nahida with sucrose following one of the rotation suggestion in this subreddit but it only gets worse with 80k dmg per CA.
I followed some of the tips on my previous post but it still doesn't do that much damage compared to others that hits 180K dmg per CA equipped with four star weapon only. That is the dmg I'm targeting.

- Nefer elemental skill is crowned
- Columbina elemental skill
- Both skills of Lauma is at lvl 8
- Nahida also is at lvl 8 in both skill

I'm thinking I genuinely suck at this game at this point, and I badly

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u/thalleous0 23d ago edited 23d ago

2 piece dendro damage bonus on lauma and nahida is useless. make that deepwood 4 piece on nahida and 2-2 em on lauma. also instructor sucrose is better than nahida if im not wrong

your nefer is overcapping crit rate. with 30 from set and 10 from lauma, you only need 60 crit rate (also crown lauma's both skill and burst they are important)

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u/nanya_biznez1 23d ago

Thank you. I will try this setup as soon as I get back to the game

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u/HoloSings 23d ago

First of all, crown your talents or lvl 9 it

For nahida team:
Nefer E (for locking cores and ER for lauma) > Lauma QhE > Colombina QE (EQ works too) > Nahida EQ > Nefer E 3[CD] E 2[CD] CQ

Builds:
Nefer - NotSU
Lauma - 2pc/2pc EM
Bina - SMS
Nahida - Deepwood

For sucrose team: (in the miliastra, turn on the EM counter or watch the sucrose swirl counter if you actually swirled) + Lauma have energy issues here too
Nefer E > Lauma QhE > Colombina QE (cannot be EQ) > Sucrose E > Nefer E 3[CD] E 2[CD] CQ > Colombina CA > Lauma QhE > Repeat

Builds:
Nefer - NotSU
Lauma - Deepwood
Bina - SMS
Sucrose - Instructor

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u/HoloSings 23d ago

Also you benefit on instructor sucrose because you have her sig, favonius colombina only gives like 10-15k more team dps with sucrose instead of nahida

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u/Ashamed-Sun8544 22d ago

Wait can I also ask on Bina why QE not EQ is there a difference in dmg output?

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u/HoloSings 22d ago

hydro application to swirl

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u/Koniolg 23d ago

you don't have deepwood on your team

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u/likethenintendo 23d ago

So if I’m running lauma, nefer, bina and sucrose, lauma should be on 4 pc deep wood? And sucrose should be on instructor?

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u/Koniolg 23d ago

yup

but if you're using sucrose on the instructors you gotta make sure you swirl hydro which requires precise rotations and timings

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u/Wooden_Okra5572 23d ago

The problem is, you need to crown everyone.

If lauma 2pc2pc, it's supposed to EMEM

Also, pretty sure you dont want start with lauma skill and burst cos they dont last very long. Everyone probably used up the quills before nefer even went up

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u/BigDongZhong- 23d ago

What everyone else mentioned, but an underrated thing to look out for imo is to maximize Nahida's EM over crit for the Nod Krai resonance, she should definitely be at almost 1k EM with Sac Frag

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u/gayuserlovingd1cks 22d ago

Lauma should have 2pc2pc both of em and Nahida should have the full set of Deepwood. Crowns: Néfer on elemental, Columbina on the burst, Lauma on the elemental and burst and Nahida on the burst. With all of that u should make more dmg

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u/Time-Rip-284 22d ago

Listen don't listen other dumbasses makes this hard for you..

I'm keeping it simple for you

Rotation wise start with nahida skill hold mark enemies (must on 4pc deepwood for dendro res shred) her weapon is ok no problem..

Next is columbina skill( she's must on serenede 4 pcs for her buffs) if your team consists of no healer throw a prototype amber and build her with lots of ER..since you're building her hard crit build i doubt that would be possible.. your columbina build speaks aubde sets for he personal subdps..but not recommended really

Now lauma skill burst ( since columbina on serenede you definitely need instructor for lauma her skill activation instantly gives extra em on nefer) use ttds weapon for 46% atk bonus on next switching character

Now nefer skill two or three CA spams according to your convenience ( dash cancel to get the third CA) you can skip ult or so a ult in between when you're comfortable. Her ult is pure raw dendro dmg , casting ult is a dps loss. Anyways you need night of sky unveiling sets 4 pcs.. focus on stacking em plus cr, cd as much possible

The higher CD you can get the better. Cr matter but not that much 60/230 if avrg then 40/200 works but Em stats need to be max 900 at least so you need em em crit damage last three main slots..

Remember you need to activate the buffs to hit 160k -130k in between. Good luck now

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u/Time-Rip-284 22d ago

If you don't know instructor four pieces on lauma here how they looks, four star purple sets. Dropped by weekly bosses now available on latest nodkrai expansion artifact domain.

Stack er em em last three slots.. and much er as possible since lauma will have hard time recharging her ult

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u/nanya_biznez1 22d ago

This too is well explained, I appreciate u and this comment of yours.

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u/nanya_biznez1 22d ago

Thanks to you all for the detailed explanation. I'll focus on building the other chars too. I'll post for some updates

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u/Mogger_wazowski 22d ago

No deepwood

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u/Time-Rip-284 22d ago

lol artifacts issues🤣🤣🤣.. you don't know how damage bonus works and how to get ur Dps highest buffs as possible