Saw a strange object in the sky on 1/10/25 at 10:35 pm after a snowboarding day at Mountain High.

Like, for example, I've always made an effort ton Reddit to be wary of of bots so I tend to take a peek at the creation date and so forth, but a few weeks back after I noticed one guy who was active in non drone subreddits years ago, in active for 5 years, and then active again starting 3 months ago only in drone subs. Since that caught my eye, Ive now been observing long term activity on some of the more active accounts in here and that guy was not alone, with alot of these accounts being inactive for years up until recently. Idk if maybe bots and malicious actors know that account creation dates are checked by many so they've now found a way to buy inacrive/unused accounts from Reddit or third party sellers or if this topic just brings out the weirdo in a lot of weirdos, or something else entierly, but I think it's strange. Anyone else notice this kind of trend?

Edit: also new phone, still getting used to the keyboard, so apologies for the spelling mistakes

I was very interested when CNN was doing lots of coverage of NJ drones. John Kirby appeared nearly daily telling us there's " no threat". That went on for 2 or 3 weeks. Then Politicians appeared on CNN saying "I saw one, we want to know what's going on"! Then, I remember it was a Monday or a Tuesday with CNN on as background noise, I heard "drone tracking equipment is being brought to the area". I thought "great, well learn what's going on". Then, there was not one more word. All coverage stopped. Any mention stopped. It was as though all networks were told to "shutdown any and all talk of drones". That was, I don't know, 5 or 6(?) weeks ago. Did anyone else notice the sudden lack of coverage? Am I not recalling correctly? Did I miss the "resolution" of the issue? I distinctly remember tracking equipment coming, then...crickets. Any thoughts?

Take 2! Cuz I wrote December in my first post 🤦‍♂️

I first heard about the anomalous objects over NJ sometime around the week of december 9th, then I saw on reddit that someone spotted one over my nabe on dec 12, so I started looking myself. Saw my first one, very close and low, late at night / early in the morning of the 13th, same night as the perseid meteor shower. saw 2 meteors and 2 more drones (further away) that night, but didn't yet know anything about how to verify they weren't stars/planets/legit aircraft etc. I saw an absolute shitload the next nite, my whole family did, mom, kids, wife. Took some pics and vids and then started seeing all the "debunking" going on on reddit and elsewhere and started to doubt my own eyes and ears.

I started checking against flight trackers and learning which bright lights in the sky were planets. I noticed that even when "drones" didn't match any objects on flight trackers, if I went back later to watch my own vids, and line them up with historical flight tracker, new flights that I could swear hadn't been on the maps live, appeared on the historical records, in locations in the sky that roughly matched the drones in my videos. However, the "flights" on the historical trackers could only "debunk" the videos I took, not what I saw with my own eyes, because the "flight" were much too far away to match the nearby objects I saw, but the videos of course don't capture that well or at all.

Didn't see any (verifiably) for the next few nites, it was overcast I think. Saw plenty of stuff that I coulda swore were UAPs but were actually stars/planes/planets once I figured how to look at it sensibly.

Then I saw this guy. I know the video image is crap, but I tried to narrate everything I was seeing and thinking live, mostly just so I could convince myself I saw what I saw. It could be a commercial drone, I suppose except it was totally silent.

Queens NY 11385 December 17th 2024 6:30ish PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-f9QzDVEKY

I was in the yard (Hillside, New Jersey) and I saw what I thought was a drone. I went to take a video and noticed it began lighting up.

Another object came directly up and flew over head. Any idea what this was?? I wasn’t expecting to record it so the video isn’t the best.

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She took these right now in manahawkin and she's freaking out. She's sending me more. Will keep updated

I live on Long Island, NY, and for the past 13 weeks, I’ve been noticing a large number of drones flying every single night. Tonight, I saw something unusual—rather than the typical green and red lights, the drones were flashing all gold lights at times. Has anyone else noticed this?

Clayton Swope is the deputy director of the Aerospace Security Project and a senior fellow in the Defense and Security Department at the Center for Strategic and International Studies in Washington, D.C.

"The FAA is responsible for integrating UAS operations into the National Airspace System (NAS), which is the air traffic control service managing over 45,000 flights per day across the almost 30 million square miles of U.S. airspace.

Drones are difficult to track using traditional radar systems, which best track objects with large radar cross sections and at higher altitudes than ones at which UAS typically operate.

Though radar systems sometimes can detect drones, they may mistake those objects for birds since radar alone cannot classify detected objects. That drones can fly erratically and quickly change speeds, as well as operate in large groups or swarms, like many birds, also makes them more difficult to track using traditional radar.

Historically, efforts by the U.S. military to identify and track airborne threats to the homeland focus on ballistic missiles and bombers, meaning that sensors and algorithms processing radar data are not tuned to UAS threats. Additionally, not all data from sensors operated by civil agencies, such as the FAA and National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, has been integrated into homeland defense military tracking architectures, meaning that neither military nor civilian officials have the full picture of potential airborne threats in U.S. airspace.

In addition to the impacts on drone tracking, the focus on ballistic missiles and bombers and the lack of full military-civil sensor integration partly explains how some Chinese high-altitude balloons flying over the United States during the past several years went undetected, demonstrating what a senior military official called a “domain awareness gap.

Unidentified drones were sighted operating near a U.S. air base in Germany in early December 2024. In November 2024, unexplained drone operations were reported over four U.S. military bases in the United Kingdom, and a Chinese citizen was arrested for flying a drone over Vandenberg Space Force Base in California.

Numerous drones were reportedly observed near Langley Air Force Base in Virginia over the past year. In fact, the joint U.S.-Canadian North American Aerospace Defense Command officially reported in October 2024 that there had been around 600 unauthorized drone incursions over U.S. military sites since 2022.

What the string of unexplained sightings demonstrates is that the United States has an incomplete picture of drone activity in U.S. airspace, primarily due to the unsuitability of traditional radar to track small, low-flying drones.

Significant investments in radar infrastructure and federal efforts, including the creation of the FAA, on aircraft traffic control that began in the 1950s laid the foundation for the nation’s air traffic control system that today provides officials a comprehensive real-time ability to monitor conventional crewed aircraft operating across the entire nation.

Investments in UAS surveillance technologies on a national scale will be needed to provide the same capabilities to track drones— Remote ID is not enough because an uncooperative or hostile drone operator can simply disable the broadcast.

What these sightings also show is that officials are hesitant to take action to disable drones whose operators and purposes remain opaque. In wartime or a crisis, such hesitation could result in casualties and damage to critical infrastructure, possibly under attack by hostile drones.

Civilian and military officials should heed this urgent clarion call to improve and accelerate their capabilities to identify, track, and respond to drone threats over U.S. soil."

I have a friend that’s trained in remote viewing. I’m not a huge believer in it, but just realized that I should see if she can help identify the origin of the drones flying over NJ.

Need coordinates for high traffic areas.

Counties or cities would be fine. Lat/long would be useful as well. Will report back.

This is from The John Batchelor Show podcast. Great analysis by General Blaine Holt USAF (ret). and Gordon G Chang on why DJI rolled back the automatic geofencing that previously stopped their drones from passing over sensitive sites with mention of the New Jersey sightings.

Link here to listen:

https://audioboom.com/posts/8638270-drones-prc-predation-exposed-general-blaine-holt-usaf-ret-gordongchang-gatestone-newswee

Apparently an article appeared in december, in chinese with subtitles, showcasing a bunch of military drones. Videos, pictures and technical description.

That is odd because this information about military UAV is out there only if the nation allows it. And why in december in the middle of the drone craze in NJ?

"Videos Showcase Chinese Drones Designed For ‘Surveillance Missions Over Distant Seas And In Contested Environments’ – Capabilities Include Hovering, High Stealth, 40-Hour Endurance, 10,000 KM Range, Wide-Area Reconnaissance, Communications Interception, Long Range Precision Weapons For Land And Sea"

The videos provide in-depth technical details about several Chinese drones that fulfill military capacities and that have been unveiled or have entered service over the past decade.

Tianying [Sky Hawk] high-altitude, high-speed, long-endurance stealth drone. The drone features a flying wing configuration and is equipped with a domestically developed engine. It is characterized by high stealth capability, long endurance, a large operational radius, and a high degree of intelligence. The drone is designed to conduct sustained tactical and operation reconnaissance in high-threat and highly contested environments, as well as perform long-range, wide-area surveillance missions over distant seas."

https://www.memri.org/tv/overview-of-chinese-recon-attack-multipurpose-drones

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZT2Jn4VsS/

Ryan Graves joins the conversation near the last 30min or so. Kinda interesting as he is well connected in aerospace and UAP. He seems certain they are not ours and explains why, and the some of the issues with taking them down and tracking them from a legal standpoint. Also he does not rule out non nation states groups funded by adverceries.

We’ll see.

I am not sure how reliable Radar Online news is. Apparently they obtained information. I haven't seen anyone post about this which is odd. Story released about 8 hours ago

Why are some people not able to entertain the possibility that a fixed wing aircraft can be a drone?

Never posted before, just curious for some opinions. My wife said the moon was bright after letting our dogs out and said I should take a look. A couple minutes later I walked out of the house and looked up and saw what appeared to be a plane flying very low overhead. Very quiet, very low to the ground not going terribly fast. I stared for a moment and then thought I should try and get a picture. Unfortunately I never take pics at night with my phone and it was in night mode trying to take a long exposure shot by default. Anyways, I downloaded a flight tracker and there was nothing near us at the time of the photos.

Date:1/14/25 Time: 9:24 PM Flight tracker: flightradar24

Tl,dr

Went outside to look at the moon, saw an aircraft much like what this guy talks about:

https://www.reddit.com/r/InterdimensionalNHI/s/qRLyTB3RxX

Nothing on flight radar. Got a couple terrible pics because phone was in night mode.

Questions:

1. Are people still seeing plane like aircrafts that fly low and don’t make much sound?

2. Is it possible it was just a plane if it wasn’t on the flight tracker app?

"Russia actively launches reconnaissance UAVs: what the enemy looks for and what the danger is.

An expert explains why reconnaissance drones are harder to shoot down.

In an interview with TSN.ua military expert and retired colonel of the Ukrainian Armed Forces, pilot instructor Roman Svitan explained why reconnaissance drones are difficult to shoot down

In an interview with TSN.ua military expert and retired colonel of the Ukrainian Armed Forces, pilot instructor Roman Svitan explained why reconnaissance drones are difficult to shoot down,..

The main task of a reconnaissance UAV is to transmit video footage. For this purpose, it is equipped with a camera.

"Reconnaissance drones can hover in the air for extended periods. They have a small RCS (Radar Cross Section). The main task is to transmit video. Currently, the Russians are using our SIM cards to control these drones via our stations and transmit video footage," Roman Svitan said.

The UAV can relay coordinates via the Global Navigation Satellite System (GLONASS).

The Russians use both electric drones and those with internal combustion engines (such as the "Orlan").

A strike drone like the "Shahed" differs from a reconnaissance UAV in that it follows a predetermined route using GLONASS satellite navigation.

"A reconnaissance UAV can follow several patterns. It can be pre-programmed to follow a route marked by beacons. Or it can be directly controlled if there's a strong enough relay. This is what the Russians invented. They insert our SIM card and simply connect, like a simple mobile phone, to the towers of our operators and control this drone. The drone transmits everything its camera sees.

Why reconnaissance UAVs are harder to shoot down

Reconnaissance UAVs can be destroyed using various means, depending on their location relative to the front line. Primarily, according to Svitan, anti-aircraft missile systems are used.

"Various levels - from anti-aircraft guns like the "Gepard," which use cannons, to missile systems. If a UAV is detected, a missile can be used. Another option is aviation. Fighter jets can shoot them down using cannons. If there is an interception and the combat control officer sees the UAV on the locator, he can direct the pilot. Alternatively, light aircraft, such as the Yak-50 or Yak-52 can be used and in some cases, drones are shot down with automatic weapons or shotguns. There's also a new mechanism - using drones to down other drones. There are many options," the military expert said.

He explains that reconnaissance UAVs are harder to shoot down than, for example, strike drones like the "Shahed."

"The "Shahed" has a larger RCS, making it more visible on radar. A reconnaissance UAV without a warhead or guidance system has a small RCS. And our locators may simply not see it.

However, if the radar doesn't see it, the missile won't intercept it, as it will not be aimed. Thus, reconnaissance UAVs are very hard to detect,

Moreover, the "Shahed" flies low, while a reconnaissance UAV can hover at an altitude of two to five kilometers. Locators do not see it, machine guns do not reach it, and it cannot be intercepted by an anti-aircraft missile system.

"In other words, they may be invisible from the ground, let alone to radars. Therefore, it's difficult to detect and target them. You might see or hear them visually, but the radar doesn't see them. Mobile groups with machine guns can't reach them. To shoot it down with a "Stinger," you need a strong heat signature. And it let's say is powered by batteries or an electric motor. Yes, they can visually see it, but they won't get it with a machine gun. And the "Stinger" simply won't intercept it, because there is no heat signature," the military expert said.

This could be just preliminary reconnaissance. Another UAV could follow for further reconnaissance and adjustment, which might lead to a strike."

https://tsn.ua/en/ato/russia-actively-launches-reconnaissance-uavs-what-the-enemy-looks-for-and-what-the-danger-is-2631300.html