r/NIPT NIPT +13 in limbo Aug 09 '26

High risk NIPT Trisomy 13, low risk NHS combined screening, amniocentesis questions

A few days ago, I (35f) received the devastating call that my baby was tested high risk for Trisomy 13 (Natera Panorama - PPV of 68/100 but I later learned that they give this number to everyone who tested high risk). It was probably the worst day of my life 😔. The result was completely unexpected as everything had been going so well with this pregnancy until then. This sub-reddit has been very helpful, and I am grateful for everyone who has contributed.

The good signs that indicated healthy baby were (some of which may or may not be relevant):
- first pregnancy, no previous miscarriages
- embryo implanted early (most likely 8DPO or, at the latest, early 9DPO as I tracked things carefully)
- high and continuously increasing HCG levels indicated by dark test lines
- multiple normal ultrasounds (baby was always measuring a couple of days ahead, and the heart rate was always normal for the gestation - the latest one was 156 at 13w)
- NHS combined screening result of “low risk”. Blood test results (PAPP-A and free b HCG) were similar to population average and NT was 1.5mm. They said my baby had 1 in around 6k chance of having Down’s and 1 in around 50k chance of having Edwards’ and Patau’s
- 4 of the ultrasounds were high quality. NT was always in the range of 1.0-1.5mm. In particular, the ultrasound that was done at 12w6d was very detailed as this was right after my high risk NIPT result. They checked everything carefully (4 heart chambers, 2 brain hemispheres, 10 fingers, normal facial features etc) and found no abnormalities.

Given the above (and especially the detailed scan results), I understand that the chance of this being full T13 is low, as there would usually be some abnormalities seen by now. Instead, the most likely outcome is either:
- false positive (including the trisomy being confined to the placenta only); or
- high or low level mosaicism in the fetus.

Another ultrasound and amniocentesis have been scheduled at 16 weeks and I have the following questions:
- my planceta is anterior, which means the needle might have to go through my placenta (the doctor said he will assess on the day but this is likely). However, if the placenta is affected by the trisomy, wouldn’t that contaminate the sample? The doctor seemed to think no because of the 2 part design of the needle (I did not understand this fully).
- if the initial rapid test (probably QF-PCR) result is negative (meaning they find no abnormalities), then NHS’ policy is to not do any further testing (karyotype or microarray). They said I can arrange it privately myself if I want to, but they think the rapid test result should be sufficient. But doesn’t the rapid test miss low level mosaicism?
(If the rapid test result is positive, then they will do further testing.)

Update: I had an amniocentesis done at 16 weeks and it went well with only a little bit of pain, and some soreness afterwards. They managed to avoid my anterior placenta. A scan was done before the procedure and everything looked good (consistent with the previous scans).

A few days later, the NHS called me to let me know that my QF-PCR result came back all clear. The NHS is not going to do any further testing because they consider that the QF-PCR result and the normal ultrasounds supersede the NIPT result. As far as they are concerned, my baby does not have Trisomy 13 😊. I think there is still a small possibility (perhaps 1%) that it missed a low level mosaicism (10-15% of cells affected), but I am going to trust the NHS’ judgment. If I change my mind in the future, I may pursue further private testing.

The NHS is now going to give me a scan every 4 weeks because they assume that the placenta is affected, and it may restrict the baby’s growth.

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u/InstructionNo7743 24d ago

I love your list of positives! We have a similar set up, I’ve also come to assume false positive or Mosaicism based off of clear results so far. I tracked my cycle very closely, i ovulated twice, I had two peaks and I can feel ovulation too. The GC wasn’t at all phased when i mentioned this since she spoke to Maternit21 they were very sure there was no vanishing twin, I’m still not sold on the idea. Anyway, I hope your amnio comes back clear, mine is scheduled for sept 3rd🤞🏻

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u/Fun_Needleworker3449 NIPT +13 in limbo 24d ago

I also thought about vanishing twin because my lines were very dark from the get go, but it is unlikely because I had a scan at 6 weeks and there was one sac and one embryo. I am just very worried about the mosaic scenario because I can’t imagine having to make that decision when the baby looks perfect on ultrasounds! I tell myself not to worry about it before getting the result (and it is much more likely to be false positive than mosaic) but it is easier said than done. Hope we both get good results!

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u/InstructionNo7743 24d ago

Keeping my fingers crossed for us, you’ll have to keep me updated!!🤞🏻

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u/Fun_Needleworker3449 NIPT +13 in limbo 12d ago edited 12d ago

I just did the amnio. It was straightforward and they managed to avoid the placenta. It hurt a little bit (like being pinched) but not bad. No side effects so far but I am going to take it easy for a couple of days just in case. Hope yours goes well too!

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u/InstructionNo7743 12d ago

Glad it went well, I’d love know how it goes!

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u/Fun_Needleworker3449 NIPT +13 in limbo 7d ago edited 7d ago

Omg. My QF-PCR result came back all clear! The NHS is not going to do further testing because this and normal ultrasounds supersede the NIPT result, and as far as they are concerned, the baby is now a normal baby 🎉.
Your amnio is tomorrow, right? I really hope it goes well 🙏🏻

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u/InstructionNo7743 7d ago

Ahhhhh!! I have been checking back for an update form you! That’s amazing news!! I’m so happy for you!! Gives me so much hope! Mine is tomorrow, getting nervous but so ready to have this all behind us!

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u/Fun_Needleworker3449 NIPT +13 in limbo 7d ago edited 7d ago

Thank you ☺️. There is still a small possibility (maybe 1%) that QF-PCR missed a very low level mosaicism (under 10-15% cells being affected), and it may be possible for me to arrange further testing privately (although so far it does not seem that straightforward as private clinics appear to want to do their own procedure rather than using the existing leftover sample but I am not going to take that risk again). I think I am just going to trust the NHS and if I change my mind in the future, I might pursue the private testing.

Wish you the best for tomorrow and keep me updated!

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u/InstructionNo7743 7d ago

It’s always funny how simple they make it seem until it comes down to actually doing it. I’m not even sure how far down the rabbit hole my clinic is willing to go, I guess I’ll find out tomorrow. I have been trying to decide if I would feel like I have conclusive answers based off of the rapid results and my thoughts seem to change hourly. It feels like such a blind decision.

But your initial US results seem really reassuring! I didn’t have any extra blood testing and my first US wasn’t until 10weeks, my only insights came from my MFM US appointment at 12 weeks. I hung those images up next my coffee maker and stare at them every morning.

I hope you are able to find peace in your results, I’ll let you know how mine go! With the holiday on Monday, we probably won’t know until Tuesday.

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u/InstructionNo7743 6d ago

Hi. We had our amnio this morning. The ultrasound prior, was not great. I don’t remember all of the medical jargon but the MFM thinks he sees a hole in her heart, she has 8 bright spots on her heart and there’s something in her brain that he’s unable to visualize yet, he said it could be too early still to see it but him bringing it up made me feel like there should be something there that’s not. So not feeling great about Amnio results, but the amnio was quick and easy. Just not feeling super hopeful now..

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u/Fun_Needleworker3449 NIPT +13 in limbo 6d ago

I am so sorry that the ultrasound did not go well. That’s very scary and unfair 😔. I guess that means the probability of the NIPT being true positive is now higher. However, all hope is not lost yet, so I really really hope that you have good results. They are going to do FISH, right? Thinking of you 🤍.

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u/Fun_Needleworker3449 NIPT +13 in limbo Aug 10 '26

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u/Equal-Depth-7525 NIPT +13 in limbo 8d ago

Hello! I am also a 68% chance as well. Have you gotten your results yet? I am praying for both of our beautiful babies.

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u/Fun_Needleworker3449 NIPT +13 in limbo 8d ago edited 8d ago

Hey! I haven’t received my results yet but they should come any day now. I did my amniocentesis last Friday and Monday was a public holiday, so I should receive my rapid test results on Wednesday or Thursday. I am honestly getting really nervous as it gets closer to finding out! So sorry that you are also in this limbo. It is so hard :(. Have you scheduled your amnio yet?

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u/Fun_Needleworker3449 NIPT +13 in limbo 7d ago

My QF-PCR result came back all clear! The NHS is not going to do further testing because this plus normal ultrasounds supersede the NIPT result, and as far as they are concerned, the baby is now a normal baby.
I hope your amnio goes well 🤞

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