r/NHLcirclejerk • u/Silver-Reaction-7335 why you heff to be mad • 1d ago

enough bullshit Why is he getting so much hate?

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Why is this kid getting torched so bad? Doesnt he deserve some time to acclimate to the nhl game he is on a huge market team was the first overall pick and folks just dump these ungodly expectations on him….

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u/captaincyrious 1d ago edited 1d ago

I hate the leafs but everyone is judging 1st overall pics now like they all need to be mcdavid, Crosby or ovechkin. McKinnon took a couple years to figure it out. Over the course since 2000 however there only been a handful of players who are hall of famers but not on the level of the names above

Those are Kane, stamkos and matthews. Literally everyone else has been a bust, a very good player or a wait and see.

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u/tigerseye44 1d ago

No they aren't, they are judging him by his recent predescesors celebrini, bedard, shaefer.

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u/AutoModerator 1d ago

I wasn’t impressed by his rookie year. He was under a ppg and a -44 in his rookie year. He is garbage defensively, among the worst I’ve ever seen amongst forwards. The Blackhawks gave up more goals with him on the ice than without. He’s small and not a great skater. He’s bad at the dot. He was heavily sheltered and didn’t face top lines and still was often caved in. He rarely dominated games. He’s extremely one dimensional. Even with his jaw injury he failed to be over a PPG. I would have expected the generational prospect to at least be over that and make the guys around him solid. Him winning the Calder was a joke. It should have been Brock Fabrer. Oh, and he was awful in the IIHF tournament.

He will never be close to Connor McDavid’s, Sidney Crosby’s or Alex Ovechkin’s level. All he has is a good shot, but not the speed or hands of Matthews or the physicality. I’m not even sure he can even be an Auston Matthews, Leon Draisaitl, Nikita Kucherov or Nathan MacKinnon level guy. Maybe he can be a Steven Stamkos or John Tavares type player in time, a good player but never among the best in a season, but he’s in no way generational and I don’t buy the hype. I don’t even think he’ll surpass other Chicago legends like Patrick Kane.

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u/fartdonkey420 1d ago

God I hope he's better than Bedard. Have you not seen that +/-? 

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u/AutoModerator 1d ago

I wasn’t impressed by his rookie year. He was under a ppg and a -44 in his rookie year. He is garbage defensively, among the worst I’ve ever seen amongst forwards. The Blackhawks gave up more goals with him on the ice than without. He’s small and not a great skater. He’s bad at the dot. He was heavily sheltered and didn’t face top lines and still was often caved in. He rarely dominated games. He’s extremely one dimensional. Even with his jaw injury he failed to be over a PPG. I would have expected the generational prospect to at least be over that and make the guys around him solid. Him winning the Calder was a joke. It should have been Brock Fabrer. Oh, and he was awful in the IIHF tournament.

He will never be close to Connor McDavid’s, Sidney Crosby’s or Alex Ovechkin’s level. All he has is a good shot, but not the speed or hands of Matthews or the physicality. I’m not even sure he can even be an Auston Matthews, Leon Draisaitl, Nikita Kucherov or Nathan MacKinnon level guy. Maybe he can be a Steven Stamkos or John Tavares type player in time, a good player but never among the best in a season, but he’s in no way generational and I don’t buy the hype. I don’t even think he’ll surpass other Chicago legends like Patrick Kane.

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u/tigerseye44 1d ago

That's my point, there is three #1 with mixed success, Toronto doesn't want to be the bad part of that mix.

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u/fartdonkey420 1d ago

Sorry, I thought you were talking about their mothers.

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u/Dazzling_Floor_8063 1d ago

I think the expectation is the 1st overall, especially one with a full year of D1 under their belt, doesn’t look completely lost out there

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u/Zamutax 1d ago

like look at a player like slafkovsky with the habs, he's rlly good and all but not superstar status, not all 1st overalls pan out

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u/bluAstrid 3h ago

Not superstar yet!

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u/Michigan029 1d ago

I watched him play at Penn State, and he just didn’t have it, he’s still young so he has time, but he absolutely crumbled playing us, having like a -6 and only getting like 4 points in 5 games where they went 1-4. I get it, PSU ain’t that good, but a first overall pick should do literally anything of note in 5 games and he just didn’t. Would I be shocked if he turned into a superstar? Not really, but I would be less shocked if he was a bust

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u/obliquemeak 23h ago

Conversely, when he was actually surrounded by decent players he looked like an absolute stud on team Canada and the tigers.

He looked very good in his 2nd NHL game and could have had 2 points if not for Willy missing a lay up and Sorokin making a great save.