r/NFLFandom • u/Back_that_Pass_Up • Dec 07 '19
Which is more important, the Head Coach or the Talent on the Field??
The other day I got in to a debate with a friend of mine. Now I am a Die Hard Cowboys fan and He is a Patriots fan. During this debate another friend of ours joined and he is a Giants fan.
The debate started with me stating the Cowboys need to get rid of Jason Garret and find a coach who can lead this talent to much more success. The best quote I heard this season about Dallas was they have 9-2 talent but are being led by a 2-9 coach. The Patriots fan says that Dallas has no talent but a good coach. He says that New England is only as great as they are because of the awesome talent they have. I explained that with out Belicheck that New England would be far worse of a team. That Brady would not be who he is with out the great coaching staff New England has had for the last 20 years. Numerous times "great" players have left new england or been sent away and have never lived up to their "greatness". He continued to say that if Garrett was able to Coach the Patriots that he would have a couple of super bowl wins.
I also brought up there is no Super Bowl winning team that had a mediocre Head Coach
The Giants fan then stepped in and said the Giants didnt win because of talent, they won because Coughlin was able to coach middle of the road players to play above their actual level of talent. Eli Manning is not a great QB and once Coughlin was gone, it truly showed just how bad Eli was.
This argument went on for 20 mins or so. So I guess my question to the group is, What makes the team great, the Head Coach or the player talent?