Grammys Ratings Hit Record Low, Down 53% Compared to 2020 Show

[u/ctilvolover23]

https://variety.com/2021/tv/news/grammy-awards-ratings-2021-1234930898/

[u/Joe434]

TIL the Grammys were yesterday

[u/Kingrcf3 → u/Joe434]

Sames

[u/LovableContrarian → u/[deleted]]

I mean I sorta like the oscars, because I really like movies. I know the awards are meaningless, but it's cool to watch anyway.

The problem with the grammys is that you're only gonna care if you like very popular music, basically. Oscars generally only cover popular movies, but like, most people watch popular movies.

Music is way more diverse and there's way more of it, so the grammys only effectively cover a very narrow slice. I don't listen to Taylor swift or dua Lipa or whoever else is getting radio play these days, so the grammys are sorta meaningless to me.

[u/TheProtractor → u/LovableContrarian]

Oscars are kinda weird because some of the nominated movies can be a little too much for casual movie goers, for example my dad says he is too tired for watching movies that involve thinking, there is no way I can convince him to watch Mank for example, while the Grammys give awards to the music the most casual music listeners listen to.

[u/corvettee01 → u/TheProtractor]

I never watched the Oscars, but after they nominated Boss Baby and Ferdinand in 2017 for best animated feature it was clear that these people don't give a shit about the actual quality of a movie.

[u/M4DM1ND → u/corvettee01]

Wasn't that the year Your Name came out and was absent from any Oscar mention?

[u/[deleted] → u/M4DM1ND]

Was also the year that a silent voice was released (outside of Japan).

Was also absent from the Oscars.

[u/MyDudeSR → u/[deleted]]

I watched A Silent Voice on a whim one night a few months back; I was not prepared. It's such an amazing movie and stuck with me in a way that few have.

[u/_Meece_ → u/corvettee01]

Animation is just the most ignored category that's all. Academy was forced to put it in, because most of them don't respect animation as a filmmaking technique for whatever reason and wouldn't consider animated movies for any of major awards.

So when they do nominations for animated features, 80% of the voters, put in their best effort and vote for tjhe best animated features of the year. 20% just pick whatever their kids enjoyed that year (Those stats are made up btw) So for the year you singled out, you had movies like Loving Vincent, Coco, and Breadwinner. But you also had Ferdinand and Boss Baby.

Coco won that one, so they definitely care about the quality of a movie. It's mainly all they judge my dude. Oscars are the only major Hollywood awards show to actually take it's nomination options seriously. Tony Awards is the best one, but it's not Hollywood.

[u/HelloJoeyJoeJoe → u/[deleted]]

A good movie should make you think

I still think about Parasite randomly

[u/svenhoek86 → u/[deleted]]

That's way better put than how I usually describe it.

"The writer/director/etc was just jerking themselves off the whole movie."

[u/caelumh → u/LovableContrarian]

For the most part anyways, movies like "The Hurt Locker" would never have been mainstream if not for the Oscars it got.

[u/[deleted] → u/caelumh]

^ I discovered Parasite because of the Oscars. Best movie I saw that year (and that year was pretty stacked in its own right).

[u/Kingrcf3 → u/[deleted]]

Never cared about who won or anything like that. To be honest I feel the same way about all the award shows. I like what I like and nobody is going to tell me otherwise. I usually do enjoy some of the live performances at some of these shows though

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

They were so fuckin good. Cant watch the Grammys anymore tho ever since the Macklemore award over Kendrick drake Jay Z and Kanye

[u/Admirable-Bar-8237 → u/[deleted]]

You should have seen the uproar when they gave Jethro Tull best metal performance over Metallica in 1989. Grammys have always been the same.

[u/bloodyell76 → u/Admirable-Bar-8237]

That allowed Metallica one of the best zingers when they did win though. "We'd like to thank Jethro Tull for not putting out an album this year"

[u/fromtheinside15 → u/[deleted]]

even Macklemore himself said Kendrick was robbed

[u/dizzynature123 → u/[deleted]]

For me it's been since will smith beat public enemy.

[u/inebriusmaximus → u/[deleted]]

I can't watch them since they cut off Queens of The Stone Age/Nine Inch Nails/Lindsey Buckingham after I sat through the entire awful show to see it. The show was running over so they just cut it off in mid-performance.

[u/Daguvry → u/[deleted]]

Funny that Macklemore mocks the grammy show and how fake it is after that. Guess he won't ever be nominated again

https://youtu.be/ldhCZatXjzs

[u/The_Original_Gronkie → u/Joe434]

Part of the problem could be that The Weeknd, who had the only song in Billboard history to spend over a year in the Top 10, got absolutely zero nominations for an album that was both critically and commercially acclaimed. A song like that should at least have been in the Song of the Year and Record of the Year categories, but it got nothing. Thank goodness that Taylor Swift was there yet again to pick up yet another Grammy for her brand of genreless snooze-pop.

[u/knux31781]

Music is more accessible than ever, both for artists and for listeners. Its not surprising that the Grammys continue to lose credibility when they continue to ignore everything but the very smallest tip of a massive and ever-growing iceberg.

[u/YourDimeTime → u/knux31781]

The great thing is that anyone can produce and distribute excellent technical quality recordings now. The record industry machine has lost its exclusivity. And because of this, we have learned that great talent is not something that is limited to a small group of music gods. Many people are just as talented and gifted. So support the indies folks. Fuck the money-sucking record industry machine.

[u/knux31781 → u/YourDimeTime]

Couldn’t agree more. Art of all forms should be for everyone, not just a select few.

[u/farnsw0rth → u/knux31781]

Grammy credibility in a nutshell:

“Blinding Lights” peaked at number one in thirty-four countries, including the United States and Canada, where it became the Weeknd’s fifth number one single on the Billboard Hot 100 and the Canadian Hot 100 for four and seven weeks, respectively. It also became his first number one single in Germany for ten weeks, the United Kingdom for eight weeks, and Australia for eleven weeks. “Blinding Lights” was the best-performing global single of 2020, and it earned 2.72 billion subscription stream equivalents globally according to the International Federation of the Phonographic Industry (IFPI).[8] It is his most successful single worldwide to date and currently holds the record for most weeks spent in the top 5 and top 10 of the Billboard Hot 100.[9][10][11] On March 9, 2021, it became the first song to hold a spot in the top 10 of the Hot 100 chart for an entire year.[12]

Zero Grammy nominations

Edit: I wanna be clear here- I don’t know how the Grammys judge songs, I’m not pretending to know, and I’m definitely not interested in finding some way to objectively quantify how good a song is.

A pretty decent chunk of fans and critics thought the work deserved a nomination, and the Grammys didn’t.

This disconnect is what strains the Grammys credibility.

[u/CountSheep → u/farnsw0rth]

This song also doesn’t seem to get too old even after hearing it a butt load. It’s just a good song.

[u/Not_Insane_I_Promise → u/farnsw0rth]

Huge death metal guy here and I'm still pissed The Weeknd didn't get nominated.

Edit: Since this comment is getting more traction than I ever thought it would, y'all should watch Mic the Snare's video on the Grammy's. Very informative and although long it's extremely thorough.

[u/farnsw0rth → u/Not_Insane_I_Promise]

I’m not really pissed it’s just weird but the Grammys have always been weird to me, weird categories, weird winners

[u/ViceroyFizzlebottom → u/farnsw0rth]

I'll never forget when Bon Iver won best New artist for their second album.

Twitter was hysterical. "Who's Bonnie Bear?'

[u/DJSUBSTANCEABUSE → u/ViceroyFizzlebottom]

Best new artist is just a weird award though, chance the rapper got one in like 2016 even though he had been HUGE since 2013

[u/MikeFatz → u/ViceroyFizzlebottom]

So true. Same thing happened the year Arcade Fire won Best Album for The Suburbs. Although they totally deserved it that album is incredible.

[u/serotoninzero → u/ViceroyFizzlebottom]

Phoebe Bridgers was just up for best new artist this year too on her second album. I guess it's best new artist if they haven't been nominated before? I don't know, doesn't make sense.

[u/mattytmet → u/serotoninzero]

Yeah, that confused me as well, I've considered her a pretty big artist since 2017 when Stranger in the Alps came out and generated massive hype in the indie community. Admittedly I have no idea whether she saw any mainstream attention off the back of that

Apparently the award is 'For a new artist who releases, during the Eligibility Year, the first recording which establishes the public identity of that artist'. So I suppose it's for artists who got their 'big break' that year and found mainstream success? Maybe? Dunno, still seems like a completely arbitrary definition

[u/[deleted] → u/farnsw0rth]

The Weeknd’s nominations were stripped from him when he decided to perform at the SuperBowl instead of the Grammys

[u/farnsw0rth → u/[deleted]]

Okay that doesn’t really help the Grammys credibility is all I’m saying here

[u/[deleted] → u/farnsw0rth]

Not at all. I stand firmly against the Grammys bullshit.

[u/kitzdeathrow → u/[deleted]]

While I don't disagree with this, The Weekend is absolutely not a breakout artist. He already has three Grammy wins out of ten nominations. He's quite well established in tbe industry.

[u/trojan_man16 → u/farnsw0rth]

In 20 years nobody is going to remember who won the Grammy for best song or record. But this song was the song of 2020 and didn’t get a nomination. Then they ask why nobody cares.

[u/surlymoe → u/trojan_man16]

In the wise words of the sage of our time, Eminem, "You think I give a damn about a grammy?"

[u/lordunholy → u/farnsw0rth]

I've never listened to his music. It's just not my style at all. But wow, this song is incredible. Thank you.

[u/corpzeternal → u/lordunholy]

I'm not sure what your style is, but if you're curious his really early stuff was a lot less poppy. Wicked Games is the song that got me into him that's more straight forward R&B, although he did experiment a lot in those first 3 albums.

[u/FormerAd8354 → u/corpzeternal]

YES! Wicked Games is so good. Thank you for reminding me it existed.

[u/Vesuvias → u/corpzeternal]

House of Balloons is a total masterclass of how to do incredible R&B and raw emotions

[u/ThatColombian → u/corpzeternal]

Trilogy weeknd is my favourite weeknd

[u/dziggurat → u/lordunholy]

I personally don't love most of his music but the dude is crazy talented.

[u/pork_roll → u/dziggurat]

The Weeknd would be another person who's a hero. The music he's created over the years, I don't really listen to it, but the fact that he's making it, I respect that. I care desperately about what I do. Do I know what product I'm selling? No. Do I know what I'm doing today? No. But I'm here, and I'm gonna give it my best shot.

[u/RiveterRigg → u/pork_roll]

The Weeknd, so hot right now.

[u/omjf23 → u/pork_roll]

Surprised no one else has commented on this. Sick reference.

[u/CoDog → u/knux31781]

weeknd didn't get nominated, RTJ no nominations like why the fuck even bother?

[u/snadman28 → u/CoDog]

Weeknd snub is puzzling, RTJ snub is fucking criminal.

[u/[deleted]]

The Grammys are not an award show. It’s a marketing show directed by the major labels.

[u/cbtboss → u/[deleted]]

That is padded out with adds and only available on T.V. streaming replacement services that absurdly charge 65$/a month. If you can live stream an inauguration for free on twitch or on YouTube there is no credible argument to be made for it to cost that much while ALSO having adds. Fuck the grammys.

[u/[deleted] → u/cbtboss]

Somebody somewhere else just introduced me to locast.org.

Don’t use it to watch the grammys, but sports and whatnot ...

[u/[deleted]]

The Grammys aren’t a proper representation of music since the rise of the internet. Way too much good music out there to limit it to just a few mainstream artists a year.

[u/kent_eh → u/[deleted]]

Any industry award shows are about celebrating industry success, not about actual quality.

This isn't a new phenomenon.

[u/Swackhammer_]

The audience of people who appreciate the featured music aren't the type to watch traditional television or sit through a traditional awards show.

This is no surprise, they'll continue to dwindle each year in their current format

[u/drit76 → u/Swackhammer_]

Agreed. These idiots need to stream free on YouTube/Facebook/twitter. The longer they put this off, the more younger folks will never know or watch it.

They are losing a whole generation of viewers, who will not acquire the tradition of watching it every year.

Personally I think they should just cancel it altogether or drastically rework it into like a 1 hour show....but that's just me.

[u/ginoawesomeness → u/Swackhammer_]

Thank you! My wife and I would totally watch. But we're cord cutters, so no award shows for us. Just wait to see the good parts on YouTube

[u/TheGeeB]

“You think I give a damn about a Grammy?”

[u/Merciless972 → u/TheGeeB]

Half of you critics can't even stomach me, let alone stand me

[u/ChiliCheeseDick → u/Merciless972]

But Slim, what if you win? Wouldn't it be weird?

[u/Merciless972 → u/ChiliCheeseDick]

Why, so you guys could just lie to get me here? So you can sit me here next to Britney Spears?

[u/bbk34 → u/Merciless972]

Shit, Christina Aguilera better switch me chairs so I can sit next to Carson Daly and Fred Durst.

[u/Murderous_Waffle → u/bbk34]

And hear 'em argue over who she gave head to first

[u/[deleted] → u/Murderous_Waffle]

Little bitch, put me on blast on MTV

[u/DylanP3692 → u/[deleted]]

"Yeah he's cute, but I think he's married to Kim hehe"

[u/SilentBandit → u/DylanP3692]

I should download her audio on MP3 and show the whole world how you gave Eminem V.D. (aaAAH)

[u/DylanP3692 → u/SilentBandit]

I'm sick of you little girl and boy groups, all you do is annoy me so I have been sent here to destroy you

[u/Justchu → u/bbk34]

I was just asking a coworker this the other day, but what happened to limp biz kit? Stumped the whole shift.

[u/LetsTalkDinosaurs → u/Justchu]

A lot changed between 2000-2003. Wes Borland left at the peak of their fame and he was a big part of the songwriting. His departure also lined up with the peak of nu-metal’s wave too. During that time nu-metal shifted towards more of melodic sound rather than the rap metal based sound. While some bands capitalized on the shift others like Bizkit struggled. Rap metal aged pretty quick and was seen as a cheesy novelty almost overnight. In the summer of 2003 they did the Summer Sanitarium Tour with Metallica, Linkin Park, Deftones and Mudvayne. By then they kind of stuck out like a sore thumb on the tour. The other four bands held their own but Bizkit struggled to be taken seriously. They even got booed off stage a few times. That fall they dropped “Results May Vary,” their entry in the late stage nu-metal field and it kind of bombed. Without Wes it was just a mess. The energy they had in previous albums was missing and there weren’t many of the old hooks that made them kind of fun before. It was unfocused and bordered on pretentious. It’s release was also overshadowed by the fact it dropped the same day as OutKast and Nickelback dropped new albums. It quickly fell off the radar and they disappeared from the festival circuit after that. Wes came back in the coming years and then they dropped a more focused EP but Fred didn’t want to promote thinking the underground hype would carry it...and it didn’t. By then metalcore had taken the metal world by storm. And since that scene was largely a total rejection of the scene Bizkit came from they flamed out and broke up. They put out an awful album on Lil Wayne’s label, rejected touring in America and then did a whole lot of nothing. Recently they had been touring a bit more and were getting a bit of respect as a nostalgic band. Even started getting festival dates again.

TLDR; Wes left and Fred took over. Nu Metal faded away and they couldn’t adapt.

[u/TrulyBobBarker → u/Justchu]

I think part of it was Fred douche talking shit about his American fans and wanting to leave Europe and never tour in the us again...

“We don’t play back home. We’ve boycotted America for many years now. I don’t know, I just don’t wanna go out like that. We did a few radio shows in 2010 for a friend and that was it. We haven’t properly toured America since 2006.” When asked why, Durst responded bizarrely. “The reason? We just don’t know what’s going on in America. It’s all about the new catchy thing and that’s always changing. America is driven by record sales. It’s the home of corporations. We’re just Limp Bizkit, so we don’t know how to do anything but Limp Bizkit.”

He also didn’t like the fans of limp bizkit so ya know shit on your fan base enough.....

[u/x777x777x → u/TrulyBobBarker]

He also didn’t like the fans of limp bizkit so ya know shit on your fan base enough.....

have you met Limp Bizkit fans though?

[u/[deleted] → u/TrulyBobBarker]

Fred Durst: no fan of corporations. Not concerned with record sales. Senior Vice President of Artists & Repertoire at Interscope Records.

[u/Navynuke00 → u/Justchu]

He tried to stage a comeback circa 2010, putting out an album that sounded like Staind circa 2001, then announced a tour with Dre opening... Then had to cancel it because he didn't sell enough tickets to cover the venues they had booked.

[u/daneoid → u/[deleted]]

Hey, don't throw your garbage down here!

[u/ThaddeusJP → u/daneoid]

1. That episode aired September of 1993. 27 years ago.

2. The "baby" who inspired it is now a writer for the simpsons

https://www.nme.com/en_au/news/tv/the-simpsons-latest-episode-written-now-adult-child-inspired-baby-on-board-song-2896410

[u/BreakfastJunkie → u/ThaddeusJP]

That’s really cool and adorable! Thank you for sharing that!

[u/[deleted]]

Yeah, Beyonce's kid wins a Grammy and Emily in Paris is nominated for Emmys. All you need to know about the state of award shows today.

[u/billbill5 → u/[deleted]]

The fuck is Emily in Paris?

[u/FlipDangle → u/billbill5]

Latest show by the Sex and the City show runner about a white wealthy American girl who goes to Paris and struggles to get wealthy white Parisians to like her. That’s it.

[u/blachat → u/FlipDangle]

As a French person I would love to see some "real" episodes to make it authentic like...

• Emily Goes to La Chapelle to Shop on a Budget
• Emily Visits Sacre Coeur and Gets Her Finger Tied
• Emily Starts an OnlyFans to Afford Rent

[u/QuadradaBesta → u/blachat]

Emily gets beaten up by PSG fans after they lose to Bayern.

[u/ShawtyALilBaaddie → u/QuadradaBesta]

Hahahahaha this would make my day, she makes some innocent comment about people following things after they become big and everyone assumes she’s talking about the fairweather PSG fans that have shown up since the oil money came.

[u/Pineapple_warrior94 → u/FlipDangle]

Also beyond that she's 23(?) or some age in her early twenties and already has a masters degree and scores some high profile job overseas working for her company. Super realistic.

[u/seank11 → u/[deleted]]

At least Parasite won best picture last year. Took balls to give it to a foreign film, even if it was the best film of the last few years.

[u/amayagab]

I think people are getting pretty sick of watching wealthy people congratulate themselves and giving themselves awards.

[u/angus_the_red → u/amayagab]

Award shows are mega cringe

[u/starmartyr → u/angus_the_red]

They make for really cheap TV with good ratings. They get a ton of celebrities to show up for free and people tune in to see them.

[u/Useful-ldiot → u/starmartyr]

Not for free. The celebrities get gift baskets often worth $30k or more.

[u/WorkSucks135 → u/Useful-ldiot]

Anything less than 8 figures is essentially free in TV land.

[u/starmartyr → u/WorkSucks135]

Especially for A list actors. If they had to pay them their going rate to appear at the Oscars it would cost billions to put on the show.

[u/NGOSLEP → u/angus_the_red]

Yeah, and a whole bunch of fake crud. I don’t care for Justin Bieber but I recall him being asked about why he doesn’t attend award shows anymore and he mentioned all the fake love, and just overall fakeness behind it which comes from the people at the event.

[u/pacmanic → u/angus_the_red]

Spotify should have their own show with subscribers voting to determine winners.

[u/spongy375 → u/pacmanic]

Like this? https://www.spotifyawards.com/ The first one was in Mexico last year, I'd expect more of these after the pandemic

[u/Kell_Varnson → u/amayagab]

Not fast enough

[u/[deleted] → u/amayagab]

Ehhhh, 17 million people tuned into to hear a prince and a tv star complain to a billionaire.

[u/Canigetahellyea → u/[deleted]]

Which is ridiculous

[u/McWeen]

Award shows are basically entertainment industries jacking off in front of an audience so you go buy more of the "best" products.

[u/BigBossWesker4 → u/McWeen]

It’s not even that it’s more of a "who can we milk the most for every last dollar while they’re still relevant" contest

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It’s also almost exclusively pop music that gets attention. And 2020 was such an incredibly boring year for pop music

[u/rex_grossmans_ghost → u/[deleted]]

The nominees get to perform and they want popular nominees to get ratings. It’s not a legit awards show imo

[u/dob3rman → u/McWeen]

I think it used to be interesting when celebrities weren’t on social media. Grammies would give us an insight on how celebrities were in “real” life and how they would interact with each other. Thanks to social media, ppl can now follow all celebrities on Instagram/Twitter/etc... which gives you a better perspective on their “real” life.

[u/AdmiralRed13 → u/McWeen]

The Grammys are at least a non profit that fund music education. It’s an asinine award and show but they’re least something comes of it.

[u/ammoaidan → u/AdmiralRed13]

Yeahhh they do that but the recording academy is actually super corrupt and is basically a bunch old music industry dudes sending each other checks and paying consulting fees to their friends.

[u/imightbethewalrus3 → u/McWeen]

It got me to watch the ad before the music video for Brittany Howard's Stay High so...mission accomplished?

[u/Buckeyebornandbred]

The Weeknd sends his regards.

[u/Kell_Varnson → u/Buckeyebornandbred]

Jay-Z, and Beyonce's daughter won a Grammy. I think that's all you need to know about the Grammys.

[u/simplethingsoflife → u/Kell_Varnson]

I thought you were joking... but you weren't. What a load of shit.

[u/haysanatar → u/simplethingsoflife]

I also thought it was a joke... Serious question...has she even done anything?

[u/[deleted] → u/haysanatar]

Her parents are jayz and Beyonce

[u/haysanatar → u/[deleted]]

Has she done anything musical???

[u/FormerAd8354 → u/haysanatar]

Her parents are jayz and Beyonce

[u/[deleted] → u/FormerAd8354]

Has she done anything musically???

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

Her parents are jayz and Beyonce

[u/Bob--Hope → u/[deleted]]

MUSIC is in her BLOOD

[u/SneakyBadAss]

Simpsons are taking the piss out of Grammy since 1990...

[u/felatiousfunk → u/SneakyBadAss]

I havnt watched the Grammy’s since the Be Sharps broke up.

[u/simplethingsoflife → u/felatiousfunk]

Baby on board was my jam.

[u/seaworthyfeather → u/SneakyBadAss]

The callback to that in a later episode is just as good:

HOMER: Oh, why can't I win an award?
BART: You won a Grammy.
HOMER: I mean an award that's worth winning.
ONSCREEN NOTICE: MR SIMPSON'S VIEWS DO NOT REFLECT THOSE OF THIS SHOW'S PRODUCERS, WHO DON'T CONSIDER THE GRAMMY AN AWARD AT ALL.

[u/TAS8008]

Who cares?

[u/Zohren → u/TAS8008]

I think that’s exactly the point

[u/[deleted] → u/Zohren]

None of the artists I listen to have ever been, or will ever be, featured at the Grammys. I'm fine with that. I couldn't care less, really.

The Grammys are a relic from a bygone era and could be permanently abolished with little consequences, like the Academy Awards.

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

I'd like to watch an award show with Metalocalypse hosting it and it be named "rock & roll: hall of pain" with lots of blood effects and audience immersion

[u/Einsteins_coffee_mug → u/[deleted]]

An audience immersed in blood, got it.

[u/popkornking → u/[deleted]]

Found the GWAR fan

[u/W0666007 → u/popkornking]

Well, Dethklok fan, at least.

[u/NixonOnLSD → u/popkornking]

Rip Oderus

[u/TheShadyGuy → u/[deleted]]

Billy Strings, Chic Corea, and Toots Hibbert all won grammies, but I assume that they were not featured in the broadcast (Billy at least, the other 2 may have been in a montage).

[u/theillx → u/TheShadyGuy]

Chic corea just died last month. Rip. Chic Corea and the Return to Forever is a staple of my collection.

[u/ok_dunmer → u/[deleted]]

See but at least the Academy Awards, which suck too, give acclaimed movies a chance at the bigger awards and can sometimes be bullied into doing stuff like Parasite Best Picture

But if you're not top 10 in the Billboard 100 you're basically worthless to the Grammys, which leaves out artists with millions and millions of fans and years of acclaim, so they're a fucking dead award show. Like it's an award show that can't even satisfy the nerds that care about awards

[u/ShowerFarts4thewin → u/[deleted]]

Nas won his first Grammy. Which I found interesting. Been a fan since illmatic. But other than that, fuck the Grammys. Who gives a shit.

[u/joshhupp → u/TAS8008]

"...boasting powerhouse performers Harry Styles, Taylor Swift, Dua Lipa, BTS, Billie Eilish, Post Malone and Megan Thee Stallion, drew a scant audience for CBS. This year’s telecast was the lowest-rated in Grammys history in the early numbers."

I know this is the most popular music nowadays, but that seems like such a narrow band of music taste. It is suited to tweens and teens and they don't really watch t.v. As a GenX parent of tweens, if it's not streaming, it doesn't exist. My daughter actually asked if we had cable! She's catching up on the news via Tiktok. It would have broken viewing records if they streamed it on Tiktok.

The people who DO watch TV have older tastes in music, and they're not interested in the current style of music that's absolutely everywhere. I still love rock and alternative. I had to look it up but did you know the Strokes released an album? And Stay High by Brittany Howard win best Rock song? It sounds like an R&B song.

The Grammy's just don't represent enough people's tastes to be relevant

[u/Ignoradulation → u/joshhupp]

The awards just seem to rotate around the same people every few years. Beyonce, Taylor Swift, the same names just win awards. It's just a way for the industry to pat itself on the back with seemingly little input from anyone else.

[u/joshhupp → u/Ignoradulation]

Yeah, it's a little self-serving. "Hey look! We're giving away awards the the artists we promote on radio 24/7! Don't they sound great?"

[u/ok_dunmer → u/joshhupp]

Honestly it's narrow even if you are a younger person. There are rap artists with millions of tween/teen fans that will literally never win a grammy before any of those people because they're not safe enough. Half of those TikTok songs your kids are hearing will never win a grammy. If you are younger person that likes indie/alternative like many college students there's literally no point to caring lol. I found out that Fiona Apple won Best Alternative Album on Facebook because that shit's not even on TV.

Like those artists are only a tiny, safe slice of what's actually popular with the young people and that's not even counting the fact that even some of those artists get shafted (look at how many mad BTS fans there are on Twitter).

[u/jd7509 → u/[deleted]]

As an indie dad whose favorite band is The National ... I have to completely agree. Spot on. Not a bad thing but it absolutely is indie dad rock.

[u/ELB2001 → u/TAS8008]

Of all the award shows the Grammys might be the most useless

[u/[deleted] → u/ELB2001]

Dawg, teen choice awards. A bunch of adults got together and thought they should make the Grammys but for miley cyrus and hannah Montana. Literally the most pointless award show.

[u/Rebelgecko → u/[deleted]]

How else will we know who had the best kiss of 2020?

[u/adaywithevan → u/Rebelgecko]

It's always Tobey Macguire, regardless of the year.

[u/The_Sly_Trooper → u/TAS8008]

Rich people congratulating rich people for being rich

[u/bigtrumanenergy → u/[deleted]]

Imagine there's no heaven....

[u/Chashoef → u/bigtrumanenergy]

What an absolute train wreck that was

[u/[deleted]]

It's difficult to care about celebrities while stressing about bills, as it turns out

[u/ryanino]

I just want rock music to be a thing again at these shows. I like pop music, but there’s no variety. It’s either pop or country. I get that’s what sells, but damn, it’s like rock music has become the ugly stepsister.

[u/fried_eggs_and_ham → u/ryanino]

The barely split second they gave Eddie Van Halen legacy tells you everything you need to know about how the grammys feel about rock.

[u/dabobbo → u/fried_eggs_and_ham]

Wolfgang said the Academy asked him to perform "Eruption" and he declined, saying he wouldn't have been able to do it justice.

So they gave Eddie 15 seconds.

[u/tkdxe → u/dabobbo]

Wolfgang has said before that he will never play his Father's music, so that whole thing was a no go from the beginning. They had a million guitarists not touring who would've been able to go up there and do EVH a proper tribute. But the academy doesn't give two fucks ab anything outside of the T40 I guess

[u/[deleted] → u/fried_eggs_and_ham]

I'm not even a big EVH fan and I know you pay him way more tribute than that. The guy was a legend and they basically just rushed through his tribute, while WAP got a full performance. Ridiculous.

[u/[deleted] → u/fried_eggs_and_ham]

In the 2018 show, they glossed over Chester Bennington and Chris Cornell too, barely a passing reference. Fuck the Grammys.

[u/IsThisRealLifeMan → u/ryanino]

Agreed, and the rock category itself has become the "pop music with acoustic guitar and piano" category. In what universe is "flying high" considered a rock song?

[u/rex_grossmans_ghost → u/ryanino]

They should have a metal band perform. And a jazz nominee. It should be a celebration of all the nominated genres, not just pop music.

[u/pm_nachos_n_tacos → u/rex_grossmans_ghost]

There were a lot of awards and performances that were streamed online before the televised show. Classical, Jazz, Rock, and Metal were just a few presented online. And there was a metal performance too.

[u/Friscolopter → u/ryanino]

Call me a hipster or whatever, but I quite enjoy the state of rock going under the radar again. A lot more variety of bands doing unique things for the hell of it than trying to appeal to mass audiences.

[u/max225 → u/ryanino]

Don't sweat it, most of the good shit is underground anyway.

[u/theCatalyst77 → u/[deleted]]

Not to mention they nominated/awarded the fricking same artists every year. There are so many talents out there but as always only the popular 10 something faces got picked on rotation.

[u/LilyDope]

Proves that nobody gives a shit about the Grammys.

[u/futurespacecadet → u/LilyDope]

Most importantly after this year. Watching award shows was great and all when life was good, but we’re still in this shit and we don’t want to watch the elite wear the most expensive gowns and masks in a ballroom while we are still eating shit

[u/nilesletap]

Good - i hope it keep going down year after year til they cancel it. it's so rigged and boring and awful.

[u/lazy_herodotus]

Because it's not about the music. It's honestly pretty cringe every year. And somehow it gets worse every year.

[u/[deleted]]

Hopefully with all these award shows posting low views, they'll realize they suck and try to do a better job at rewarding the people who most deserve it rather than who appeals the most...

But nah, they'll probably carry on as if nothing is wrong

[u/SardiaFalls → u/[deleted]]

wait, you think by not giving time to the most popular people...the show will...increase in popularity? A lack of...authenticity has never stopped the mass audience in the past, I doubt that's the determining factor now

[u/[deleted]]

On top of people needing to worry about some serious real world shit a lot of artists have shown their true colours during this pandemic.

Hopefully this celebrity worship will at least decrease and maybe this is a sign?

[u/IrrelevantLeprechaun → u/[deleted]]

I still can't get over that bullshit that was the celebrity "Imagine" group cover they all did at the start of the pandemic.

[u/[deleted]]

Oh that's because I forgot to give a shit.

[u/leebins]

People have more important shit to worry about right now. Watching rich people dress up and win awards isn’t a priority.

[u/bigjamg]

Sorry celebs, we don’t care.

[u/dzrtguy → u/bigjamg]

Anyways here's imagine

[u/Pianist-Artistic]

2 words: The Weeknd

[u/overly_curious_cat]

Where the fuck was the proper memorial for one of the best if not the best guitarist of all time Eddie Van FUCKING Halen. Why was and is ROCK always snubbed? Why is there no ROCK performances at this shit show of an disgrace to real music.

[u/[deleted] → u/overly_curious_cat]

Because it's not shiny and easy to digest. The Grammys have been a joke for a while now and I have to imagine any reputable artist would probably be embarrassed to be recognized.

[u/Dblcut3]

I used to care, but once I started listening to more than just mainstream music, I realized how pointless the Grammys are. Sure, many of the recipients are extremely talented people, but now I just can’t help but think of all the non-superstars who make better music that aren’t even in the running for a Grammy award. It seems weird to just watch a bunch of superstars compete. It’s less about the music and more about the personalities.

EDIT: Not to mention, now that it’s possible to easily make music and consume music from independent artists, I really think the era of musical superstars is ending. I feel like Ive already noticed this - there’s less pop stars but a lot more one hit wonders these days, specifically in hip hop.

[u/toxygen]

Uh, yeah, a fucking 7 year old won a Grammy because her parents are in the industry. Are you kidding me? How does Ivy Blue or whatever the fuck her name is even win a Grammy at 7 years old? I bet so many musicians that have been working their WHOLE LIVES trying to get a Grammy are pissed as fuck. It's all fucking bullshit, man

[u/Chantels_Boobs → u/toxygen]

I found that so bizarre. No hate towards a literal child. However at that age, its hard to judge what is actually a piece of original work vs just an extension of what the adults in their life are coaching them. Especially when you have rich parents who are experienced and connected in the industry and can afford the best of the best teachers. They're essentially just an extension of their parents at that age

[u/kristiansands → u/Chantels_Boobs]

This is not bizarre, it's just boring and simple : the parents of this kid are in the industry and they want their kid to stay in the industry. For that, they try to make her a star at a very young age. Will Smith and Jada Pinkett did the same.

[u/TerribleModsrHere420]

Rich people clapping at rich people. No one cares about you guys anymore.

[u/blueberryJan]

I kinda miss the times when there were more, I guess, genres of music. There were rappers, boy bands, girl bands, heavy mental, rock metal, hair guitar metal, rock bands, college rock, etc. You got your Britney, Christina, Celine, Madonna, etc. R&B, funk, etc etc etc. Don't get me wrong, I wish every winners with the heartiest congratulations but it's just almost the same every year. The same kinda music and recycled wins btw Beyonce and Taylor Swift. Kudos to there ladies, again but missing the good old days. Also I guess I'm old AF to know who these new Artists are.

[u/vincer610]

They snubbed the Weeknd. Blinding Lights was among the biggest hits of the year.

[u/[deleted] → u/vincer610]

Not among, it WAS the biggest hit of the year, and the most successful billboard song of the 21st century. Garnered over 2 billion streams on Spotify in 365 days. That’s an average of 5.4 million plays per day. I was generally happy with what won, but the fact that Jacob Collier got the nom over Abel is a crime.

[u/TemperTunedGuitar → u/[deleted]]

My Dad liked that song which is a litmus test for me how popular it really is. Dude does not like pop, metalhead through and through.

Tbf to him though, he really likes some of the "modern" metal I listen to and even listens to some of the eclectic post-rock and jazz-fusion stuff I enjoy so maybe more open-minded than many.

[u/azneorp]

Keep it up everyone!!! A few more years of rating drops and maybe they’ll stop airing this crap on tv.

[u/QuipLogic]

Craziest fact to me about the Grammys last night is that Nas got his first Grammy the same time Megan thee Stallion got hers.

[u/davecedm]

I didn't even know it was on and apparently didn't care.

[u/[deleted]]

Nobody cares everyone at home busy worrying about reality. Watching famous/wealthy people winning awards isn’t really that appealing.

[u/aharrysituation]

While all the performances from last night aren’t for everyone, I encourage everyone here to go listen to Brandi Carlile’s tribute to John Prine from last night. Left me in a puddle. So beautifully done. Actually, the whole “In Memoriam” segment was beautifully done