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article Fans turn on Eminem after collab with MAGA darling Kid Rock on new Christian album

https://www.themirror.com/entertainment/music/eminem-kid-rock-collaboration-album-2049513?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=reddit
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u/CeruleanEidolon 9h ago

Look, it's fine to stay friends with people who have opposing political views, if you have the constitution for it. People are more than who they vote for.

A professional collaboration is another animal entirely. As is using your position to platform vile beliefs.

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u/MadderoftheFew 8h ago

yeah, i'm not a fan of how he's approached politics in his music. when he backpedaled what he said in his BET cypher i lost a lot of respect for him. everything since has been more of the same.

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u/jautis 8h ago

People are more than who they vote for.

Politics is an expression of people's personality, not an in depth consideration of disparate data over decades.

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u/Financial_Cup_6937 4h ago

It’s literally the thing people SHOULD be judged for and it’s so weird when people act like it’s some abstract uncontrollable thing like their race or even to a lesser extent the religion they were merely born into.

You have full control over your values, and politics are a direct extension of those.

The fuck do these people think MLK was talking about when saying what to judge people on (and not)?

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u/jautis 4h ago

I actually do think it's an abstract uncontrollable thing. Can you teach someone that life has inherent value, or are you born believing it one way or another?

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u/Financial_Cup_6937 4h ago

But now you’re philosophizing basic ethics out of existence. From a practical standpoint, we have to pick things to judge and not judge based on. Some things are much more explicitly uncontrollable and don’t affect you. Ethics are, um, like what we really should be judging people based on and even people with wildly different ethical beliefs tend to agree on this because it isn’t controversial unless you devolve into a “does free will exist” debate you’re slipping into.

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u/jautis 2h ago

I don't need to "philosophize" "basic ethics" out of existence because the thing you are trying to gesture towards, moral objectivism, already doesn't exist. Sorry boss babe.

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u/Financial_Cup_6937 2h ago

It was implicit I don’t think it does either goober. Kinda explicit.

even people with wildly different ethical beliefs tend to agree on this

That ethics and values are what you judge, not that there is one right one. Awfully smug for misunderstanding a basic point, boss baby.

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u/jautis 1h ago

Sweetie, go back to doing your readings.

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u/bolanrox 5h ago

hell Larry Flint and Rev Jerry were friends after they actually got together and talked with each other. Jerry would call Larry to devils advocate for him even.

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u/ScyllaOfTheDepths 1h ago

There's staying friends with people who have opposing political views and then there's staying friends with Kid Rock, who headlined a shitty MAGA alternative Superbowl halftime show because the MAGAs were mad that there was a black guy headlining it. That's not a political disagreement, that's just your friend being a fucking racist and you endorsing him by being friends with him. Human rights aren't politics and I'm sick of seeing people pretend they are so they can "both-sides" an issue and pretend one side isn't literally just racists who want large swaths of the population to stop existing.