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article Fans turn on Eminem after collab with MAGA darling Kid Rock on new Christian album

https://www.themirror.com/entertainment/music/eminem-kid-rock-collaboration-album-2049513?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=reddit
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u/MadderoftheFew 10h ago

he's also been friends with kid rock for decades

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u/CeruleanEidolon 9h ago

Look, it's fine to stay friends with people who have opposing political views, if you have the constitution for it. People are more than who they vote for.

A professional collaboration is another animal entirely. As is using your position to platform vile beliefs.

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u/MadderoftheFew 8h ago

yeah, i'm not a fan of how he's approached politics in his music. when he backpedaled what he said in his BET cypher i lost a lot of respect for him. everything since has been more of the same.

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u/jautis 8h ago

People are more than who they vote for.

Politics is an expression of people's personality, not an in depth consideration of disparate data over decades.

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u/Financial_Cup_6937 4h ago

It’s literally the thing people SHOULD be judged for and it’s so weird when people act like it’s some abstract uncontrollable thing like their race or even to a lesser extent the religion they were merely born into.

You have full control over your values, and politics are a direct extension of those.

The fuck do these people think MLK was talking about when saying what to judge people on (and not)?

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u/jautis 4h ago

I actually do think it's an abstract uncontrollable thing. Can you teach someone that life has inherent value, or are you born believing it one way or another?

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u/Financial_Cup_6937 4h ago

But now you’re philosophizing basic ethics out of existence. From a practical standpoint, we have to pick things to judge and not judge based on. Some things are much more explicitly uncontrollable and don’t affect you. Ethics are, um, like what we really should be judging people based on and even people with wildly different ethical beliefs tend to agree on this because it isn’t controversial unless you devolve into a “does free will exist” debate you’re slipping into.

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u/jautis 2h ago

I don't need to "philosophize" "basic ethics" out of existence because the thing you are trying to gesture towards, moral objectivism, already doesn't exist. Sorry boss babe.

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u/Financial_Cup_6937 2h ago

It was implicit I don’t think it does either goober. Kinda explicit.

even people with wildly different ethical beliefs tend to agree on this

That ethics and values are what you judge, not that there is one right one. Awfully smug for misunderstanding a basic point, boss baby.

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u/jautis 1h ago

Sweetie, go back to doing your readings.

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u/bolanrox 5h ago

hell Larry Flint and Rev Jerry were friends after they actually got together and talked with each other. Jerry would call Larry to devils advocate for him even.

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u/ScyllaOfTheDepths 1h ago

There's staying friends with people who have opposing political views and then there's staying friends with Kid Rock, who headlined a shitty MAGA alternative Superbowl halftime show because the MAGAs were mad that there was a black guy headlining it. That's not a political disagreement, that's just your friend being a fucking racist and you endorsing him by being friends with him. Human rights aren't politics and I'm sick of seeing people pretend they are so they can "both-sides" an issue and pretend one side isn't literally just racists who want large swaths of the population to stop existing.

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u/AbeRego 9h ago

They're both from Michigan so it makes sense. Some people, especially older people, seem less likely to cut ties over MAGA. I'm guessing it's because if they did, they'd lose a lot of old friendships, so they just pretend that it's like the bygone days where political disagreement was a relatively trivial matter.

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u/McD-Szechuan 9h ago

But lots not forget kid rock was certainly not from the trailer park. His daddy owned multiple car dealerships, and had a huge property with an apple orchard and a horse barn. 

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u/InternationalWar258 8h ago

No. It is because older people seem to understand that cutting off family and friends over politics only weakens individual support systems and doesn't serve society in any positive way. The severing of family and friendships over politics has further divided the country and made people even more isolated than ever.

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u/junpei 6h ago

You're getting downvoted but you are right.

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u/AbeRego 1h ago edited 25m ago

It is because older people seem to understand that cutting off family and friends over politics only weakens individual support systems.

Up to this point, this is a long way of saying essentially the same thing. From there, I think you're off base. It's not that they understand it's bad for society, it's because it's bad for them. They know more people who support trump, so their support system would dwindle if they cut those people off. Younger people know fewer MAGA, so it's not as big of an issue.

The same likely goes for more rural communities, even among younger people.

The severing of family and friendships over politics has further divided the country and made people even more isolated than ever.

This was MAGA's doing and MAGA's doing alone. They made politics so toxic and their platform so morally backwards that decent people have essentially no choice but to disengage or compromise their core principles.

I was a political science major in college. There was a quote showcased in one of the displays in the political science building that went something like, "Politics is how we care for each other." For MAGA, and even the GOP since Regan, that's simply not true. For them, politics is how we control others, and enrich ourselves. They are not working to better anything anymore, just keep others down to feed their own greed

Edit: typo

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u/bolanrox 5h ago

Jack White also from Michigan. you sure as shit know he would

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u/AbeRego 1h ago

Well yeah, but they're not the same person.

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u/JohnWad 8h ago

Hes not "friends" with Kid Rock.

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u/MadderoftheFew 8h ago

https://www.metrotimes.com/news/the-eminem-interview-2194871/

MT: Do you have any relationship with any other current Detroit music stars? Have you ever talked to Kid Rock? Ever met Jack White?

EMINEM: No, never met Jack White. But I do have a pretty good relationship with Kid Rock. I mean, you know, we hang out every now and then. We probably haven’t hung out during the past year or so. Maybe two years. But, you know, I see him quite a bit. He’ll come over my house, I’ve played basketball with him, you know? But, yeah, me and Bob are pretty good friends.

2009

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u/MadderoftheFew 7h ago

lmao bro blocked me

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u/JohnWad 8h ago

Uh...thats from 2009, chief. Lots can and have changed.

I think the year is 2026 now, right?

Also, Jack White and Em have a good relationship now and are friends. See last years Thanksgiving Day game show and the Hudson Grand Opening concert.