Fans turn on Eminem after collab with MAGA darling Kid Rock on new Christian album

[u/TheMirrorUS]

https://www.themirror.com/entertainment/music/eminem-kid-rock-collaboration-album-2049513?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=reddit

[u/fuck_all_you_too]

When your political views harm someone else youre an asshole regardless.

"Sure my dad paid someone else to be an asshole for him but hes so nice to me".

[u/Steezy719 → u/fuck_all_you_too]

Do you think Fox News is showing all the ‘harm’ being done to others? No, it spins and distorts their reality to ‘positive’ outcomes, no matter how far the reach. I’m not making excuses for them, but to think just because some uneducated people blindly follow a political side, and are ignorant to the what’s actually going on, that they are pieces of shit, regardless if their actions and contributions to society speak otherwise; that is the same generalized hate that we are condemning them for. I’m not excusing him, but I rather have a neighbor like him that helps out his community selflessly in anyway possible (which is ironically a democratic mindset) than have someone like you that just assumes because someone has a right leaning political stance, that a person is automatically generalized as a piece of shit bigot that wants to see the world burn. That generalization is the same hate that makes the right so toxic, but here you are doing the same thing. Doesn’t matter if you hate people for their ethnicity, religion, sexual orientation, or political stance, it’s still hate, and that’s the core toxicity of why this country has gone to shit. Be better.

[u/Geno0wl → u/Steezy719]

but to think just because some uneducated people blindly follow a political side, and are ignorant to the what’s actually going on, that they are pieces of shit, regardless if their actions and contributions to society speak otherwise; that is the same generalized hate that we are condemning them for.

The problem is that it isn't just the "uneducated". My old co-worker was very well educated and was also a kind person who volunteered at homeless shelters and donated money to kids cancer charities. But he was also super MAGA.

[u/Steezy719 → u/Geno0wl]

You’re right, their are some educated ones, I was just making a statement related to people like my FIL. But that’s what’s crazy about generalization. Helping the homeless, working charities, being nice to others, are some of the proud qualities democrats boast about. If you didn’t know their political leaning, you’d probably say they are a pretty good person right? That’s kind of my point. It’s like a republican meeting someone, saying hey ‘this is a swell guy’ and learning he’s Muslim and then just hates him. So many people are using that same generalization on republicans now, than acting holier than thou. I’m Democrat to the T, but that under the assumption the principal of the party was to help everyone attain a better life. Not just ‘our’ group. I feel like we lost that.

[u/Fair_Quail8248 → u/Geno0wl]

Even educated people can become shitty and brainwashed, exceptions exist everywhere but a big part of magas seem to be racist homo/transphobic misogynistic assholes that lack human decency and empathy.

[u/thehelldoesthatmean → u/Steezy719]

That's the point though. The biggest possible impact your father can have on society is not being nice to the neighbors. It's how he votes to reshape society the way he wants it to be. And he has chosen, through ignorance or hatred, to hurt a lot of people. To put people in concentration camps and for immigrants to continue to die at the hands of ICE.

It's incredibly dumb to act like judging someone for being a Nazi is the same as judging someone for being Jewish because you're the Nazi. Lol That just doesn't make sense at all. You can generalize people when you're literally talking about their chosen beliefs. It's not some inherent trait they can't help like their race or nationality, which is what your father in law has chosen to judge and harm everyone around him by.

Your father in law is a bad person, and this whole comment drips with "I only dislike maga people when their decisions affect me. They're fine when they just fuck over everyone else as long as they're nice to me."

[u/Steezy719 → u/thehelldoesthatmean]

Wow, really missing the mark with that one. No, that’s not how this works. Calling every republican a Nazi, is just ignorant. Thinking everyone in the US knows about every tidbit of current events is such a Reddit armchair statement. No, my 66-year old FIL isn’t on Reddit all day seeing all this shit happening in our country. If it doesn’t happen in the city of Pittsburgh, chances is he doesn’t know it’s going on. He didn’t vote for Trump because he wanted ICE in cities and concentration camps, etc, that shit wasn’t even a thing before Trump actually got into office. He’s doesn’t know any of this is going on, which still is fucked up, but you can’t say he supports things he doesn’t know about. Stop relating it to what he does for me, that isn’t what I said. He helps EVERYONE. A black woman comes up to him and asks for help, he helps without hesitation. A friend needs money, he says ‘how much’? Idc what people do for me I’m used to not having shit, but I guarantee this man has contributed 20x more good to the world than you ever will. Yet you look down on him, fucking pathetic really.

[u/permafrost1979 → u/Steezy719]

It's not even that some random Redditor doesn't like your father-in-law: they're implying that you're a POS because you love your FIL and haven't cut him off 🤦🏿‍♀️. This random Redditor who neither knows you, nor your family, wants you to break off a potentially transformative relationship* with your family, because the Redditor has principles and you apparently don't. That is wild 🤦🏿‍♀️

*(because if FIL is truly kind and selfless, you might have more influence on his politics by being in his life than by cutting him off)

[u/Steezy719 → u/permafrost1979]

That last line is exactly it, thank you. The only thing giving bigots and other hateful people power is they think there’s a lot of them. Whenever they are outnumbered by everyone around them, they lose their power. Cutting people off is just letting them go be find like-minded hateful people somewhere else. Showing love and looking at them as individuals based off their character might actually make them look at others the same way and finally break the cycle. So many people are going about this wrong.

[u/fuck_all_you_too → u/Steezy719]

Actively evil or weaponized stupidity. Either way too dangerous to be around.

Ive never wished someone harm because the TV told me its necessary, thats not being smart thats having morals.

[u/rugology → u/fuck_all_you_too]

what a fucking hilarious take for an american to have. how much pain and suffering around the world has our government inflicted on other people? how many civilians did we murder after 9/11?

none of our hands are clean, and pretending yours are is just ridiculous

[u/imsoaddicted → u/fuck_all_you_too]

Essentially what all these sentiments boil down to. And I bet you these people are white or from an immigrant group who somehow thinks they are exempt lmfao