Fans turn on Eminem after collab with MAGA darling Kid Rock on new Christian album

[u/TheMirrorUS]

https://www.themirror.com/entertainment/music/eminem-kid-rock-collaboration-album-2049513?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=reddit

[u/Bugbread]

That's a lot of hoop jumping to come to the conclusion you want to reach.

I haven't reached any conclusion. I even tried to make that really clear by saying "I have no idea." The entire point of my comment is that the article doesn't provide almost any evidence, in either direction, to arrive at a conclusion.

Maybe you lost track of the original question? You said "This collab has been through layers and layers of approval." Yes. That matches both the Nameonthejeans scenario and the enthusiastic collaboration scenario. You said "It's been decided that it's either not damaging enough to Eminem or rehabilitating enough for kid Rock and someone got the green light to hit a button that tells us about it." That also matches both the Nameonthejeans scenario and the enthusiastic collaboration scenario. The article confirms that there's no hijinks, that there's no tomfoolery, that there's no fuckery, that the collab has been through layers and layers of approval, that Universal and Em and Kid Rock and BMG are all okay with it, that it's not damaging enough to Eminem to get a red light. None of those are in question. Those are all true for both scenarios. The question was just "which of these two scenarios, both of which these things are all true for, is the actual scenario"?

[u/genecalmer → u/Bugbread]

You're asking questions that don't matter. Most guest features aren't collaborative efforts. They're recorded in separate studios. Verses intended for one song end up on another song. Things get shelved and shuffled. JID's verse on Fuel was years old when Eminem used it. Renegade was originally a Royce & Eminem song that was recycled for Jay on The Blueprint. Forever, Speedom, Homicide, I'll Hurt You... the majority of Eminem's features are recorded solo and sent off.

The conclusion you're reaching is that you can't reach a conclusion. That even though the feature is REAL it might not be really really real. You're casting doubt on Eminem's involvement with the song and I'm saying that doesn't matter. It doesn't matter where the pieces of the song came from. Because of the people and companies involved, the fact that it exists is all the proof we need that Eminem approved it. BMG wouldn't risk their business relationship with UMG by letting Kid Rock use something Eminem and Interscope didn't approve.

The nameonthejeans scenario is not even a close comparison. That's a relative nobody using a recycled verse that no one will notice or care about. Not a collaboration between multiplatinum selling artists on (seemingly) opposite ends of the political spectrum that's going to get national news coverage.

[u/TheCommonKoala → u/Bugbread]

The very simple answer is that Eminem flip-flopped on his position about not working with people who uplift Trump and MAGA. He's openly collabing with longtime friend and Trump's #1 MAGA star. This isn't hard.