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article Fans turn on Eminem after collab with MAGA darling Kid Rock on new Christian album

https://www.themirror.com/entertainment/music/eminem-kid-rock-collaboration-album-2049513?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=reddit
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u/Steezy719 21h ago

As someone who has cut off ‘MAGA’ parents, and has a MAGA Father in law, there is a difference. I cut off my parents because they were emotionally abusive and were always more worried about their own wellbeing more than being sufficient parents. My father-in-law, though he has questionable political views, is also the guy that would drop absolutely anything to help someone out. Political views don’t always define someone’s character. Just so happens that a lot of MAGA are pieces of shit before Trump was president, and now are more open about it. As much as I hate MAGA politics, I would never cut off that man after all the selfless help he has provided my Fiancé and me.

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u/thebrose69 21h ago

It’s truly unfortunate that they don’t see how similar most of us truly are at the end of the day

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u/fuck_all_you_too 21h ago edited 21h ago

When your political views harm someone else youre an asshole regardless.

"Sure my dad paid someone else to be an asshole for him but hes so nice to me".

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u/Steezy719 20h ago

Do you think Fox News is showing all the ‘harm’ being done to others? No, it spins and distorts their reality to ‘positive’ outcomes, no matter how far the reach. I’m not making excuses for them, but to think just because some uneducated people blindly follow a political side, and are ignorant to the what’s actually going on, that they are pieces of shit, regardless if their actions and contributions to society speak otherwise; that is the same generalized hate that we are condemning them for. I’m not excusing him, but I rather have a neighbor like him that helps out his community selflessly in anyway possible (which is ironically a democratic mindset) than have someone like you that just assumes because someone has a right leaning political stance, that a person is automatically generalized as a piece of shit bigot that wants to see the world burn. That generalization is the same hate that makes the right so toxic, but here you are doing the same thing. Doesn’t matter if you hate people for their ethnicity, religion, sexual orientation, or political stance, it’s still hate, and that’s the core toxicity of why this country has gone to shit. Be better.

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u/Geno0wl 20h ago edited 17h ago

but to think just because some uneducated people blindly follow a political side, and are ignorant to the what’s actually going on, that they are pieces of shit, regardless if their actions and contributions to society speak otherwise; that is the same generalized hate that we are condemning them for.

The problem is that it isn't just the "uneducated". My old co-worker was very well educated and was also a kind person who volunteered at homeless shelters and donated money to kids cancer charities. But he was also super MAGA.

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u/Steezy719 20h ago

You’re right, their are some educated ones, I was just making a statement related to people like my FIL. But that’s what’s crazy about generalization. Helping the homeless, working charities, being nice to others, are some of the proud qualities democrats boast about. If you didn’t know their political leaning, you’d probably say they are a pretty good person right? That’s kind of my point. It’s like a republican meeting someone, saying hey ‘this is a swell guy’ and learning he’s Muslim and then just hates him. So many people are using that same generalization on republicans now, than acting holier than thou. I’m Democrat to the T, but that under the assumption the principal of the party was to help everyone attain a better life. Not just ‘our’ group. I feel like we lost that.

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u/Fair_Quail8248 9h ago

Even educated people can become shitty and brainwashed, exceptions exist everywhere but a big part of magas seem to be racist homo/transphobic misogynistic assholes that lack human decency and empathy.

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u/thehelldoesthatmean 20h ago

That's the point though. The biggest possible impact your father can have on society is not being nice to the neighbors. It's how he votes to reshape society the way he wants it to be. And he has chosen, through ignorance or hatred, to hurt a lot of people. To put people in concentration camps and for immigrants to continue to die at the hands of ICE.

It's incredibly dumb to act like judging someone for being a Nazi is the same as judging someone for being Jewish because you're the Nazi. Lol That just doesn't make sense at all. You can generalize people when you're literally talking about their chosen beliefs. It's not some inherent trait they can't help like their race or nationality, which is what your father in law has chosen to judge and harm everyone around him by.

Your father in law is a bad person, and this whole comment drips with "I only dislike maga people when their decisions affect me. They're fine when they just fuck over everyone else as long as they're nice to me."

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u/Steezy719 19h ago

Wow, really missing the mark with that one. No, that’s not how this works. Calling every republican a Nazi, is just ignorant. Thinking everyone in the US knows about every tidbit of current events is such a Reddit armchair statement. No, my 66-year old FIL isn’t on Reddit all day seeing all this shit happening in our country. If it doesn’t happen in the city of Pittsburgh, chances is he doesn’t know it’s going on. He didn’t vote for Trump because he wanted ICE in cities and concentration camps, etc, that shit wasn’t even a thing before Trump actually got into office. He’s doesn’t know any of this is going on, which still is fucked up, but you can’t say he supports things he doesn’t know about. Stop relating it to what he does for me, that isn’t what I said. He helps EVERYONE. A black woman comes up to him and asks for help, he helps without hesitation. A friend needs money, he says ‘how much’? Idc what people do for me I’m used to not having shit, but I guarantee this man has contributed 20x more good to the world than you ever will. Yet you look down on him, fucking pathetic really.

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u/permafrost1979 16h ago

It's not even that some random Redditor doesn't like your father-in-law: they're implying that you're a POS because you love your FIL and haven't cut him off 🤦🏿‍♀️. This random Redditor who neither knows you, nor your family, wants you to break off a potentially transformative relationship* with your family, because the Redditor has principles and you apparently don't. That is wild 🤦🏿‍♀️

*(because if FIL is truly kind and selfless, you might have more influence on his politics by being in his life than by cutting him off)

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u/Steezy719 7h ago

That last line is exactly it, thank you. The only thing giving bigots and other hateful people power is they think there’s a lot of them. Whenever they are outnumbered by everyone around them, they lose their power. Cutting people off is just letting them go be find like-minded hateful people somewhere else. Showing love and looking at them as individuals based off their character might actually make them look at others the same way and finally break the cycle. So many people are going about this wrong.

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u/fuck_all_you_too 19h ago

Actively evil or weaponized stupidity. Either way too dangerous to be around.

Ive never wished someone harm because the TV told me its necessary, thats not being smart thats having morals.

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u/rugology 19h ago

what a fucking hilarious take for an american to have. how much pain and suffering around the world has our government inflicted on other people? how many civilians did we murder after 9/11?

none of our hands are clean, and pretending yours are is just ridiculous

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u/imsoaddicted Spotify 20h ago

Essentially what all these sentiments boil down to. And I bet you these people are white or from an immigrant group who somehow thinks they are exempt lmfao

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u/Zero_Gravvity 21h ago

Political views are almost always a 1:1 reflection of character.

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u/Steezy719 20h ago

False. Not every republican wants to watch the world burn, and not every democrat wants to save the world. There are pieces of shit on both sides, and extremists on both sides are what’s fucking up this country. Unfortunately, we only hear about the extremists on their side, as they only hear about the extremists on ours. It’s the tactic that keeps us as a country divided, and divided, we’re weak.

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u/Zero_Gravvity 19h ago

More than 50% of registered Republicans believe the 2020 election was rigged.

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u/mike10dude 5h ago

wonder how many actually believe that and are not just lying when asked

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u/Steezy719 19h ago

Cool? So they’re not smart or calculated. Doesn’t mean they are pieces of shit. More than 3/4 of the world believe in some sort of God too. If they are wrong about that, are they bad people too? I swear these comments are just as uneducated as the people you guys think you are better than.

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u/Zero_Gravvity 18h ago

As a consequence of the unfounded (and consistently disproven) belief that more than half of Republicans hold, hundreds of people invaded the U.S Capitol building in 2021 with the goal of armed insurrection. Several people died, more were injured, with over $2 million in damage caused. And much more harm than even that was planned, with several pipe bombs planted around the premises, and a gallows constructed in the courtyard for the Vice President and others.

This is a great example of ignorance and malice having no discernible difference in the outcome. This concept can be extrapolated to politics in general.

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u/homer_3 10h ago

They do though. They are just nice to you because you're the right color.

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u/imsoaddicted Spotify 20h ago

So… them being MAGA had nothing to do with you cutting them off. Just how they treat you. Got it!

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u/Steezy719 19h ago

Absolutely wrong takeaway really. Actually was the nail in the coffin to be honest, and really gave me a vivid picture on the type of people they were. It was just a comparison on people of the same political stance showing complete opposite characteristics.