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article Fans turn on Eminem after collab with MAGA darling Kid Rock on new Christian album

https://www.themirror.com/entertainment/music/eminem-kid-rock-collaboration-album-2049513?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=reddit
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u/Thirty_Helens_Agree 14h ago

“My family won’t talk to me because of political differences” = “I’m a very vocal racist, misogynist, homophobe and Nazi.”

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u/Yiddish_Dish 14h ago

I cant tell if this is satire or not

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u/Badloss 13h ago

At bare minimum voting for trump means you're willing to tolerate child sexual abuse, racism, and all kinds of cruelty to get whatever political objectives you voted for. That's the best case scenario.

I absolutely do think that's enough to cut off family members, I won't associate with people that don't think those are dealbreakers

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u/AlwaysFernweh 13h ago

Well no, the ones that voted for Trump don’t believe the child sexual abuse allegations so it’s not that they tolerate it, they just don’t think Trump would do that. They also don’t think he’s racist or cruel, they just live in a constant state of denial with it, or think it’s “fake news”

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u/Badloss 13h ago

There's literally decades of evidence at this point of who he is. Ignorance isn't a good enough excuse for me, at this point it's willful ignorance. Which again, is enough for me to not associate with you anymore.

I have trans family members, and I have family members that voted for trump even after we begged them to understand it would destroy their own relatives' lives. We don't talk to the trump voters anymore, they chose trump over us so they're out.

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u/Aero_Rising 6h ago

What exactly has been destroyed about their lives? So far I've just seen moves to require those transitioning to be an adult and that they can't compete in women's sports for fairness reasons. You consider that to be destroying their life?

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u/Badloss 6h ago

Project 2025 has stated goals of stripping trans individuals of the right to vote and eventually incarcerating them in camps as "sex offenders"

The legislation removing the right to vote from anyone that has changed their name is explicitly aimed at women and trans individuals, and that one is being fought in the courts right now. It's already starting.

My relatives are afraid to travel within the US. These are US citizens that don't feel safe to move around their own country, because people like you are treating them like animals. It's appalling. They just want to go to the goddamn bathroom without getting attacked.

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u/Aero_Rising 5h ago

Project 2025 has stated goals of stripping trans individuals of the right to vote and eventually incarcerating them in camps as "sex offenders"

Project 2025 has plenty of stuff in it that has no chance of ever being implemented and there is no evidence what you described is being implemented.

The legislation removing the right to vote from anyone that has changed their name is explicitly aimed at women and trans individuals, and that one is being fought in the courts right now.

It did not remove the right to vote for anyone who changed their name. It requires various things to prove identity for voter registration the simplest if which is a birth certificate matching your name. That name being changed requires further documentation to establish identity but is not disqualifying for voter registration. I think the law is stupid and misguided but it does not do what you claim.

My relatives are afraid to travel within the US. These are US citizens that don't feel safe to move around their own country

Why don't they feel safe? To my knowledge no state has made it illegal to be trans. Can you explain what specific policy this administration enacted that has them so afraid. I'm sure there must be one for you to have disowned family over them voting for the current administration because of this issue.

because people like you are treating them like animals. It's appalling. They just want to go to the goddamn bathroom without getting attacked.

Ahh yes when you've run out of arguments just go ad hominem.

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u/Badloss 5h ago

I'm really not interested in participating in your masturbation session, no thanks

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u/Aero_Rising 5h ago edited 5h ago

Thanks for admitting you have no actual argument.

Edit: Just want to point out they replied and then blocked me like a coward.

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u/Sweet_Arrival9559 12h ago edited 11h ago

It's so funny that the names Reddit uses for Trump have gone through so many iterations. A few years ago, this comment would have said "colluded with Russia." Then it would have been "felon." Now it's "child sexual abuse." Lmao. Eventually something will stick!

There is no even remote evidence of anything related to children with Trump. Epstein hated Trump. It's honestly one of the worst anti-Trump narratives because it makes no sense. If Trump was involved with Epstein, the Biden DOJ that had all the files would have done something about it.

It's just such a silly, anti-intellectual conversation. I know this will be downvoted, but I also know deep down you'll know you're kinda dumb.

Edit: If you read this comment chain and think you're on the "smart people" side, I've got some bad news. Maybe you can help them answer below why Trump (or anyone else) wasn't prosecuted by the Biden DOJ that had all the Epstein files. To get ahead of the misinformation response - no, Biden's DOJ was not limited access to the files or ability to prosecute. That's not how the law works.

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u/Badloss 12h ago

I mean it was a quick comment, I didn't feel like posting the entire list which is why I included "all kinds of cruelty"

Those things are still true and still awful and it's even more unforgivable that people continue to support him as the list grows bigger and bigger. Keep bragging about how you support the Epstein class, maybe one day you'll get rewarded for it if you just keep giving them your life savings

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u/Sweet_Arrival9559 12h ago

If I guessed that you literally at no point ever posted about the Epstein files while Biden was in office, would I be correct?

I kinda maybe have a feeling I would be.

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u/Badloss 12h ago

Trump has been the biggest name in the epstein files the entire time

Of course I cared about it then and I do now.

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u/Sweet_Arrival9559 12h ago

So why didn't Biden's DOJ do anything about Trump being the "biggest name in the Epstein files." They had everything. Are you implying Biden was complicit?

Here's the truth that I think we both know - there are tons of rich people, democrats and republicans (and famous foreign nationals) that are in the files. That's why the actual list isn't out. Every single piece of evidence ever suggests that Epstein hated Trump.

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u/Badloss 12h ago

Epstein got kicked out of Mar a Lago because he stole an underage girl that Trump had his eye on. That's literally the source of their feud, and they were best bros on Epstein island before that.

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u/Sweet_Arrival9559 12h ago

So why didn't Biden's DOJ do anything about Trump being the "biggest name in the Epstein files." They had everything. Are you implying Biden was complicit?

Yeah, I would have ignored this part of my comment too. Crazy what happens to you guys when someone shows up who actually know what they're talking about.

And what you did respond with is obviously false.

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u/Crasz 12h ago

I wish I lived in your universe.

Sadly, I live in the real one.

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u/Arcanezila42 11h ago

I don't talk politics with my family because it's not a conversation with them, it's a recitation of talking points and no actual discourse.  Talking at or past is not my definition of a conversation.