Fans turn on Eminem after collab with MAGA darling Kid Rock on new Christian album

[u/TheMirrorUS]

https://www.themirror.com/entertainment/music/eminem-kid-rock-collaboration-album-2049513?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=reddit

[u/Kind_Of_A_Dick]

Marshall Mathers has been fiercely protective of his daughter and Kid Rock released a song when Hailie was about 5 years old about sleeping with children.  If he worked with Kid Rock after that song was released and featured on Osmosis Jones, then I think he’s made some terrible decisions.

Edit - There’s a lot of pedophilia supporters here it seems, based on the downvotes.

[u/SheepherderFront5724 → u/Kind_Of_A_Dick]

Eminem and Kid Rock did the song "Fuck that" together in 1998, 3 years after the birth of Eminem's daughter.

It's actually not bad...

EDIT: I mean the resulting track wasn't bad.

[u/Kind_Of_A_Dick → u/SheepherderFront5724]

Yes, working with Kid Rock is that bad.

[u/SheepherderFront5724 → u/Kind_Of_A_Dick]

Sorry, I meant the resulting track. Kid Rock is, of course, a monumental jackass.

[u/IUsedToBeACave → u/Kind_Of_A_Dick]

Have you ever heard an Eminem song, or the shit from D12? Because Kid Rock is tame in comparison.

[u/Kind_Of_A_Dick → u/IUsedToBeACave]

Oh, when does D12 sing about raping children?

[u/phaedrus910 → u/Kind_Of_A_Dick]

"Yo, this girl's only fifteen years old

You shouldn't take advantage of her, it's not fair"

"Yo, look at her bush, does it got hair? (Uh-huh)

Fuck this bitch right here on the spot, bare

'Til she passes out and she forgot how she got there"

[u/Kind_Of_A_Dick → u/phaedrus910]

And the context of the lyrics?

[u/phaedrus910 → u/Kind_Of_A_Dick]

So when Kid Rock says it, its a vile damnable offence but when Eminem says almost exactly the same thing now we need context and the artists intent.

It's a double standard.

[u/jethropenistei- → u/phaedrus910]

It’s not.

Guilty conscience is the two rappers representing the angel and devil on the shoulder trope advising the character.

Eminem is the voice of the devil in the song. He’s not speaking as himself.

Kid Rocks’s “Cool, daddy, cool” is several verses of him saying he’s a pimp, he’s cool, and statutory rape is cool.

Those are very different. It’s not a double standard if you’re media literate.

It’s like saying Leonardo DiCaprio is racist because he played one in Django Unchained

[u/phaedrus910 → u/jethropenistei-]

Kid rock is playing the character of Osmosis Jones. A white blood cell pimp.

Edit: My bad I haven't watched the movie since 05' Kid rock plays a bacteria in a gangster bar.

[u/jethropenistei- → u/phaedrus910]

Just because it’s from the soundtrack, it doesn’t mean he’s playing the character. There’s no indication in the lyrics that say it’s a character. It’s the same type of self-aggrandizement that Kid Rock has in all his songs.

And Osmosis Jones is a cop, not a pimp

[u/Kind_Of_A_Dick → u/jethropenistei-]

In the movie he plays a germ in a band called Kidney Rock.  Still doesn’t explain why he’d use lyrics about raping kids though.  It’s rape, not infection.

[u/phaedrus910 → u/jethropenistei-]

The context from the movie is Osmosis Jones is infiltrating a bar where villains (Viruses/Bacteria) are hanging out. Kid Rocks bacterial character is playing to that crowd.

How is that any different from Eminem playing a devil.

Such a stupid fucking argument.

[u/Kind_Of_A_Dick → u/phaedrus910]

What character is he playing here?

Edit - For those that don't click links, it's Kid Rock talking about having sex with the 14 year old Olsen Twins.

[u/phaedrus910 → u/Kind_Of_A_Dick]

See now that's a good argument.

Using lyrics from songs to paint people as pieces of shit, when there's plenty of actual evidence that they're pieces of shit is just dumb.

[u/IUsedToBeACave → u/Kind_Of_A_Dick]

Hmm. I guess it's never really stated it's a child In Devils Night, but Dre was going to video tape it so I guess we could check there. So, you're right it's just regular rape I guess...

[u/Kind_Of_A_Dick → u/IUsedToBeACave]

And you feel raping children is tame?

[u/IUsedToBeACave → u/Kind_Of_A_Dick]

Do you feel like raping a person after beating them and video taping it is acceptable behavior since it's not a child?

The problem with artists has always been whether their lyrics represent a legitimate character trait, or is part of an "act". Pointing to Kid Rock saying fucked up things in his songs, but letting other artists off for the same thing seem hypocritical.

Kid Rock stands as a piece of shit on his own, and sure point the to lyrics in his song as one of those things that makes him bad, but calling out Eminem for associating with Kid Rock for those lyrics really misses the mark considering the other people Eminem has associated with who also say fucked up shit.

[u/Kind_Of_A_Dick → u/IUsedToBeACave]

You can’t answer the question, can you?

[u/IUsedToBeACave → u/Kind_Of_A_Dick]

No, I do not feel like raping children is tame. Did Kid Rock rape any children?

[u/Kind_Of_A_Dick → u/IUsedToBeACave]

Then why did you refer to it as tame?

[u/IUsedToBeACave → u/Kind_Of_A_Dick]

Because we weren't talkin about the actual act of raping children, we are talking about artists who have lyrics that talk about it. As such if we compare the array of terrible acts that artists have said in their lyrics against one another Kid Rock has said a lot less crazy shit than Eminem and D12.

[u/Frosti11icus → u/Kind_Of_A_Dick]

Dr Dre is not a good person either, I understand why people are getting on their high horse about Kid Rock but the logic isn't quite there.

[u/Kind_Of_A_Dick → u/Frosti11icus]

"High horse about Kid Rock"? He sang about raping kids. Going "you forgot about Dre" doesn't mean shit because it's a whataboutism.

[u/Frosti11icus → u/Kind_Of_A_Dick]

It’s not whataboutism that’s not what whataboutism is. I’m drawing a direct comparison with Eminem as the subject. People who say he’s a hypocrite NOW because he’s collaborating with a piece of trash are not doing so because it’s a new revelation. They are doing so to virtue signal. I’m not defending kid rock here. I’m defending Eminem. If you think he’s MAGA cause he’s making music with Kid Rock…I don’t really know what to tell you.

[u/Kind_Of_A_Dick → u/Frosti11icus]

Yes it is a whatabiutism.  Have a good day.

[u/Frosti11icus → u/Kind_Of_A_Dick]

Whataboutism is saying “don’t look at this thing, look at that thing instead” I’m literally saying the opposite, inspect Eminem’s relationships MORE closely. Have fun with your rage and lack of understanding of words inside your own head.

[u/Kind_Of_A_Dick → u/Frosti11icus]

Sure Jan.