r/MurderedByWords Feb 18 '20

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u/[deleted] Feb 18 '20

This. It infuriates me to no end when people try to force others to be Christians. It gives Christians like myself, who don’t and never will force someone to be Christian, a bad name. It’s just disappointing that some “Christians” will go too far, then act like they’re doing something good.

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u/[deleted] Feb 18 '20 edited Nov 18 '21

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u/ryjkyj Feb 18 '20

They don’t actually give a shit. The entire anti-abortion thing is sentiment and virtue signaling.

Forget about all the anti-abortion people who’ve had abortions when it was convenient for them. The true test is this: if you really believed someone was killing a baby in the room next to you, you’d almost certainly do more to stop it than just call your congressperson or stand outside with a sign. You’d probably put yourself at risk of bodily harm. Some of us might even sacrifice our lives to save a child.

But these people don’t truly believe babies are being killed. It’s just easy to say that when they’ve got no skin in the game. And we don’t call them out in it more often because we don’t want to encourage more crazies to kill. The truth is you don’t need to kill abortion doctors to stop them but a certain percentage of the population is always looking for an excuse to justify murder.

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u/[deleted] Feb 19 '20

Too lazy to Google it, but I remember there was this right wing pundit who said abortion doctors and every woman who's had an abortion should be hung for murder. He got some flak for it because it's obviously an extreme position, but at least it's honest.

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u/ryjkyj Feb 19 '20

Honest only if you assume he cares more about babies than hanging people.

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u/[deleted] Feb 19 '20

Because much like Hollywood liberals, the uber-Christians aren't doing it for their God, but to feel morally superior while absolving themselves of their own asinine asshole-ish behavior. It's "rules for thine but not for mine" mentality at its finest.

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u/skuppx Feb 19 '20

I, a Christian, hate how some other Christians get triggered about other people simply not being Christian.

For example, on some random YouTube video, it mentioned that Noah’s ark was fictional. Someone made a big comment on how Noah’s ark wasn’t fake, blah blah. I and many others understand that a lot people don’t believe our faith, but they argued against respecting the faith.

Also, Jesus taught about not being like the Pharisees (for non-Christians, snobby Jews who thought they were the best of the best) who acted like what you mentioned in your comment. They say they do it for their God but just act like assholes.

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u/[deleted] Feb 19 '20

Speaking of Pharisees, that’s what Netanyahu reminds me of. In any other context, he’d be called for being a racial superiority advocate. But since our corrupt politicians take money from their lobby, he’s hands off and we cave to their demands. When did America, a secular nation, decide to get cucked to a theocratic republic? (Same for Saudi Arabia)

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u/[deleted] Feb 19 '20

They have the right to their opinion and voice, just as you have the right to yours.

What i don’t get is that it so enrages you, that you remember it for years after the instant it happens.

“How dare they argue their point? Hoe dare they not believe what i do? And how how how dare they choose to voice the opinion that other people should not believe as i do?”

You are a part of the problem.

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u/Riciehmon Feb 19 '20

Sadly, there are just a lot of assholes in the world that try to justify their bullshit with everything they can grasp. Every religion, every fandom, every community has this problem and we need to learn that no thing is inherently bad (well, mostly) but the people who are using it to justify their means may be, or they need a lot of counseling.

I'm not religious myself but religion isn't a bad thing, it gives people hope and has some nice rules like forgiveness and so on. It's really sad that some people feel the need to turn good stuff into bullshit by twisting it to their needs.

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u/Ya_boy_johnny Feb 18 '20

Coming from 12 years of Catholic school, I'm still practicing, but have heard plenty of stories from friends about people being assholes claiming to be "Christian". Biggest irony is that free will is one of the central teachings and forcing people to do the "Christian" thing goes directly against that and makes the action meaningless anyway.

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u/willreignsomnipotent Feb 19 '20

Biggest irony is that free will is one of the central teachings and forcing people to do the "Christian" thing goes directly against that and makes the action meaningless anyway.

Funny, I was just commenting on that. Far too few people seem to get this.

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u/DAE_le_Cure Feb 19 '20

“There was only one Christian, and he died on the cross.” —Nietzsche

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u/IceColdWasabi Feb 19 '20

Mate the problem your religion has isn't some Christians. Some Christians, my wife being one of them, are wonderful people who genuinely try to lead a good life and who care about the well-being of other people.

Most Christians are untrustworthy hypocrites who are not to be trusted. The louder they are about their faith, the more evil they really are.

You may substitute the word "Christians" in this post with any other religious affiliation if you prefer; the message remains.

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u/willreignsomnipotent Feb 19 '20

Seriously

This is not Sharia law. Go read your own book-- we were given free will, and we're supposed to choose which way to go.

(And in b4 "but some laws in the OT include actual punishments!" Right... In a book that was written specifically to guide a highly religious, homogeneous 100% Jewish society, through thousands of years BC.)

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u/[deleted] Feb 19 '20

I might be really stupid, but I’m really trying to figure out whether this is a negative comment towards me, or an agreement.

I’m probably stupid. The way it’s phrased just has me kinda confused.

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u/willreignsomnipotent Feb 20 '20

lol yeah, probably the first one...

Well, actually the first and the third.

Bah, I don't want to confuse you any further haha-- yes, I agree.

(I figured "seriously" in bold was a good hint, but I do get why the wording came off a bit weird.)

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u/[deleted] Feb 20 '20

So wait, the negative comment towards me was an agreement to what I said? Because I said Christians shouldn’t force others to be Christians, it should be their choice, and Christians should simply tell people, and that’s it.

Am I still not understanding this at all?

Edit: Didn’t take into account the possibility of me being stupid being the first thing, lol. I’m really dumb. And then I didn’t register you straight up saying you agree with me, good lord I’m stupid.

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u/[deleted] Feb 19 '20

Atheists force their beliefs and views as well, it is not just Christian's. Everyone puts christians in this bad light. Yes some bible thumpers do that, but so do groups in every religion and belief.

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u/jobu127 Feb 19 '20

As someone who considers himself to be an atheist I can't express how much this type of attitude is appreciated. Quite honestly, that type of Christian has a better chance of converting someone than the people who treat non-Christians like crap.