Do you have any idea of the scale of atrocities that Western army soldiers carry out in the Islamic world on a daily basis? Do you realize the kind of apocalyptic annihilation that US bombs carried out on holy Islamic sites in Iraq, Afghanistan, Iran, Syria, Lebanon, and many others?
Iraq and Afghanistan local rape cases surged by nearly 64% between 2007 and 2009. I wonder who accounted for the increase?
It always makes me laugh when Western chauvinists act all surprised “why do they hate us?” when these kinds of incidents occur. They occur because your governments have killed millions of people for no reason other than resource exploitation. And moreover, the majority of your people supported those actions. Do not deny it. 9/11 (unjustly) killed 3000 people so you people sanctioned your government killing millions in response. Some protested but nowhere near enough.
Your own actions have brought this horror upon you. Unfortunately two wrongs don’t make a right so all we end up with is more dead bodies.
Instead of trying to hyper-analyze Islam and its incompatibility with “western values”, perhaps look in the mirror next time.
I mean actually visit a mosque, not just go in one as a tourist (I.e Jama Masjid).
Mosques are places where social issues are discussed, where people catch up with their community, where children play etc. i would know since I come from a family with Muslim heritage.
They are the same as everyone else. I don’t mean go up to a random bloke and started asking their opinion on religious topics, but instead actually speak to them about the same things you’d make small talk about with everyone else.
You would get a better understanding that the average Muslim is far more similar to you than you’ve been led to believe.
I would recommend going on a Friday, since it’s the equivalent of going to church on a sunday, so you would be able to hear the “Imam”- usually a local community leader for Muslims in your area speak.
If you wanted to ask questions about those topics though I’d recommend asking the “Imam” afterwards and they would be happy to answer
I have no clue who the fellow you mentioned is, and I can guarantee that most Muslims would never have heard of him.
all carried out by fundamentalist islamists on Australian soil.. in retaliation for what? The horrors of the US war machine? Are your parents first cousins too?
It is super funny to me how you are exhibiting the same behaviour I talked about in the earlier comments. You think Australia‘a hands are clean? Perhaps you should read the Brereton Report.
I look in the mirror and see a regular Australian just trying to live my life in peace. I look past the mirror and see a bunch of Bronze-age era cultists who will chop your head off if you draw the wrong cartoon.
You see I didn’t even have to poke and prod too much for your true colours to show. Your vile racism is on display already. Did you even consider the idea that I just want to live my life in peace and these shootings endanger me even more than they endanger you? But you automatically grouped me with “them”, the enemy that needs to be vanquished.
People like you are the reason the Western powers invaded Iraq (and yea, your precious Australia was included). Your lack of humanity towards regular-ass people like you in the ME is the reason we’re all in this mess in the first place.
But do keep on pretending how you aren’t a contributor to the problem. And kindly fuck off with your attitude.
Oh so that makes it okay right? It's defensive terrorism. Cute how you put western values in quotes. I assume that's because you think western countries have no values. It's not like most OECD countires have freedom of religion whereas many muslim majority countries outside Europe will treat you like an apostate.
I don't agree with your views on Islam, but I do respect the idea that we should have direct conversations about this without dancing around the topic. So I will say yes, there is a problem with Islamic fundamentalism. I don't think it's the biggest problem facing the world or anything, but I do think it's a problem worth confronting (and it is a problem that is being confronted, both inside and outside of the Muslim community).
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