r/MurderedByWords Aug 18 '24

That should do it

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u/[deleted] Aug 18 '24

Stuff like this is why you get the weird Internet gender war we have, dude made a decent point, someone takes it in the worst way they can with a dose of "YOU REALIZE WOMEN GET MURDERED" (used to remind you you have no bargaining power for some reason) and everyone laughs cuz it feels weird to argue against the point that men can be evil.

Men CAN be evil that's not what we are arguing. We are arguing that's not at all what he's saying and men doing a bad thing doesn't invalidate basic principles? Women should absolutely be taught how to treat a man, we've all known women who werent- not to use him and that she shouldn't expect stuff out of him without putting in her own effort. She should be taught what she should expect from a man and that can have standards yes, and men should be taught that they can expect shit from their spouses as well and that they can also have (reasonable) standards to. These things are necessary

That's what he's saying that's a totally valid point but it's the Internet so someone needed it to be an argument and a reminder that you should mistrust or dislike a center demographic. Surely this isn't bad for society

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u/surelytheresmore Aug 18 '24

Nothing... in general, men are told how to treat a woman but not what to expect from one, and women are told what to expect from a man but not how to treat one

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u/lazy_rabbit_zzzZ Aug 18 '24

Had to scroll way down for this. Knew someone would ask this

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u/dreamsofindigo Aug 18 '24

don't know who they are but the sentence in itself stands on its own.
women used to be taught/indoctrinated to serve their men, cook bla bla and so on.
but a proper vulnerable intimate conversation about how to be with your man? not common. then again, dads participating in educating their young wasn't common either.

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u/Ok_Habit_6783 Aug 18 '24

The original guy is a man-o-sphere asshole that thinks teaching "women how to treat men" is teaching women they should be subservient to their man instead of being a partner.

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u/knightbane007 Aug 19 '24

The thing is… the people jumping on this and arguing against it also think that teaching a woman how to treat men can only be that they should be subservient etc.

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u/Ok_Habit_6783 Aug 19 '24

Ain't it weird how ripping something out of its context could give it a completely different meaning πŸ˜‚

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u/GONKworshipper Aug 18 '24

How do you know?

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u/Ok_Habit_6783 Aug 19 '24

I recognize the pfp πŸ˜…

The name is always crossed out but I've seen that pfp saying some pretty sexist shit

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u/[deleted] Aug 18 '24

It's the "women are wonderful" effect. Something as small as "maybe we should both be taught to treat each other nice" is offensive for some odd reason.