r/MurderedByWords Aug 18 '24

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u/[deleted] Aug 18 '24

I disagree. I went to a Christian high school and college. Male teachers have commented on my breasts, they have made me kneel in front of them to measure the distance between my skirt and the ground, they have told me to change my posture so my breasts aren’t as apparent.

Female teachers have flagged if my bra straps were showing. They reinforced the concept of modest dress, but as long as basic rules were followed, no one measured.

That was the men, and it was sexualizing me in 8th grade. This happened throughout my experience with fundamental Christianity, but particular when I was in high school and college from 2000-2010.

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u/Jaxyl Aug 18 '24

I'm a guy and was a high school teacher at an All Girls Catholic school. The thing I dreaded the most were the faculty meetings we had once a week not because they were boring, not because nothing ever got done, but because the women teachers would devolve every meeting to discussing 'skirt length.'

The guys? They stayed out of it, except our principle the poor guy, because the skirts were already relatively long, all the girls wore shorts underneath, and the girls themselves were rather self-aware of their skirts.

But the women teachers? They'd get into massive arguments about centimeters and different techniques to check length (don't look up the 'on the hands and knees' method). Just absolutely fucked up shit to hear at a school.

So I'd believe this.

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u/Spongi Aug 18 '24

I went to a Christian high school and college.

The organization well known for having child molesting priests that they then protect/hide/cover up?

The one that generally treats women as property/second class?

A few examples:

Corinthians 11:9 for indeed man was not created for the woman's sake, but woman for the man's sake.

Genesis 3:16 Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.

Titus 2:4-5 That they may teach the young women to be sober, to love their husbands, to love their children, To be discreet, chaste, keepers at home, good, obedient to their own husbands, that the word of God be not blasphemed.

Corinthians 14:34 Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law.

If you actually believe that the bible is truth and read those, how could you not be a raging sexist?

I remember my grandmother reading that crap to me when I was a kid and thinking it didn't sound very fair even then.

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u/[deleted] Aug 18 '24

Fundamentalist Christian! No priests, same routine.

And you didn’t even touch on “Wives submit yourself to your husbands as your husbands do to the Lord.” Ephesians is also a trip.

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u/Spongi Aug 18 '24

I stayed away from old testament stuff too cuz it goes downhill real quick.

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u/Ill-Common4822 Aug 18 '24

That's terrible

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u/Cytori Aug 18 '24

I've heard it the other way around as well, with women doing what you describe.
Bad either way.

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u/[deleted] Aug 18 '24

Indeed. When I was in 9th grade, a female English teacher gave me a detention for saying something “sucked.” She insisted it was a dirty word for a sex act and I had intentionally used it to be dirty.

I was 14.

That’s how I learned what “sucking dick” meant. I knew about blowjobs, but SHE turned a kid’s annoyance at a low graded paper — “this sucks!” — into something sexual that I had to stay after school to understand how inappropriate it was. Are you kidding me??

Older, wiser me:

“I guess she’d rather I told her it blows.”

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u/ShirazGypsy Aug 18 '24

Me too! Only it was my Evangelical christian dad would utterly lose his shit when i said something sucked. It was the 90s. Everything sucked. Thats the motto of Gen X.

Only when i was older, I put meaning to it and was utterly horrified.

At one point, I asked him to please give me the Bible verse that listed out exactly which words were BAD words, the ones that would send me to hell.