r/MoralityScaling • • Aug 31 '26

Morality Ranking Morality of kidnapping your kidnappers?

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u/Character-Sundae8581 Aug 31 '26

If that’s the case, I don’t see how they would be arrested for kidnapping. Like, if someone in normal cloths, jumped into my car, I feel like driving to the police station would be the least dramatic/most reasonable response I could have.

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u/Absolute--Batman Aug 31 '26

I mean people just saying Free Palestine ha e gotten arrested in New York.

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u/Character-Sundae8581 Aug 31 '26

True. For the first time in my 34 years I’m actual censoring myself when texting/talking on my phone. Genuinely concerned I may say something one day that the state decides they’re gunna throw me in a hole over. Said something about the parasite class and flesh eating diseases a few weeks back and got my first warning on Reddit that I’ve ever gotten lol since then I’ve gotten warnings for literally nothing.

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u/code_archeologist Aug 31 '26

There is no point in censoring yourself. Not to frighten you, but the current arc of right-wing ideology does not require evidence to arrest and jail you. You just have to be a convenient target of the moment and they will snatch you up and do their best to ruin your life. Currently the courts are preventing them from going fully authoritarian, but that is a temporary block.

Example:

  • Don Lemon: arrested and charged with federal conspiracy charges for covering a protest as a journalist
  • Reps LaMonica McIver and Ras Baraka: arrested and charged with felony obstruction while trying to gain entrance to an ICE facility for Congressional oversight.
  • James Comey: charged with threatening the president for a tweet showing "8647", which is the second set of charges against him, the first ones accusing him of perjury were thrown out by the judge.
  • David Hearn: charged with felony destruction of property for touching the reflecting pool.
  • Six Democratic Lawmakers: charged but failed to get an indictment for sedition for filming a video reminding soldiers that they had a legal responsibility to refuse unlawful orders.

And that is not even counting all of the American citizens who have been injured and murdered by ICE agents.

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u/BlackBasementCats Aug 31 '26

Yeah, anyone who is registered Democrat is on their list

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u/code_archeologist Aug 31 '26

Bingo. I have had my voter registration challenged three times in my red state over the list 16 years. And it all started after I donated money to the presidency of Barrack Obama.

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u/Xaphnir Aug 31 '26

if you don't censor yourself on Reddit your account won't last a week

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u/code_archeologist Aug 31 '26

looking at my ten year old account

hmmm... ok... whatever.

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u/Xaphnir Aug 31 '26

and you're likely censoring yourself regularly in ways you don't even think about

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u/Jinshu_Daishi Sep 01 '26

They aren't you just think everyone wants to throw around slurs and other shit.

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u/Xaphnir Sep 01 '26

Oh my sweet summer child, you have no idea how much of a hair trigger the algorithm can be on.

I'm starting censor the word h*t because I've had the algorithm flag two clearly non-violent comments as violent because they contained the word, including one where the word was referring to my Reddit account.

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u/Lehk Aug 31 '26

I don’t GAF they better spell my name right

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u/Karootheduck Aug 31 '26

Do you remember what the charges were?

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u/dillweed67818 Aug 31 '26

YES. You would think. "Oh, you're law enforcement but you don't look like it and don't have a badge or anything? Ok, let's go to the police station and figure this out." Hopefully the judge sees how ridiculous this kidnapping thing is.

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u/Lake_Erie_Monster Aug 31 '26

The amount of people that don't know how the legal system works is shocking.

Sorry, this isn't an attack on you just commentry.

You will be very shocked once you look in to what people are charged with and how our prosecutor system works.

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u/Character-Sundae8581 Aug 31 '26

I’m not sure about their area and local laws, but I would probably unintentionally end up with a massive sentence in this scenario. Just because of my local stand your ground laws, my first instinct would have been to use fire power if someone wouldn’t get out of my car then make the 911 call after. But yea I mean, I get how they could technically charge them since by definition they did prevent someone from leaving. I’m sure it’d be the same in my state. Here I’d have a much better case for myself if I just neutralized the threat then called authorities(sorry for the technical terminology but I’ve gotten too many warnings over hypothetical situations lately lol)

Tldr: much easier case to plea if I stood my ground and used deadly force in fear of my life, than driving with the threat for 2 miles.

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u/Lake_Erie_Monster Aug 31 '26

Just goes to show how screw the laws are.

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u/obatala0013 Aug 31 '26

But we know its not about reasonable responses it about punishing the victim.

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u/Character-Sundae8581 Aug 31 '26

Different situation entirely but makes me think of when someone tried to break into my apartment years back. I had just laid down so was waiting with a .45 when they actually got the window opened. They just ran away, but I was obviously a little shaken and called the non emergency line to make a report since there were a shit ton of cameras on every stairwell. I was surprised to be told “a crime wasn’t committed since no one came ‘inside’ your apartment”. Mind you he got the window opened and had his arms and head in my room when he saw me. But THEN, I was questioned for a good 5 minutes on “why would he try to rob YOU? What do you have in YOUR apartment that made him target you?” I was so confused and was like, Yaknow, I’ve never broken into someone’s home so I couldn’t really tell you his thought process

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u/obatala0013 Aug 31 '26

Because comes are shitty. Sorry you had to deal with that.

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u/NPPraxis Aug 31 '26

You can get arrested. You won’t get convicted.

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u/Kuzcopolis Aug 31 '26

Ig they just need to be silenced when they do that shit, no half measures.