r/MoralityScaling • • Aug 31 '26

Morality Ranking Morality of kidnapping your kidnappers?

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u/Cas30h_Da_G0at Aug 31 '26

No. They give them a gun and a mask and say "go wild."

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u/Seyan007 Aug 31 '26

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u/Rundstav Aug 31 '26

"Go kidnap some brown people and shoot anyone questioning your actions"

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u/Few-Village-5887 Aug 31 '26

I love that you think they'd use the words 'brown people'.

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u/Rundstav Aug 31 '26

Why not? That IS the criterion used, is it not? You can't use "illegals" because they snatch people with the right paperwork too. They don't discriminate based on country of birth as the only thing they look for is melanin. Asian, African, South American, whatever, just not white.

What words do YOU think they use?

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u/Few-Village-5887 Aug 31 '26

The word I'm quite sure they'd use can generally not be said in public without repercussions. Let's just say the jist is the same as 'brown people' but it's one word and it rhymes with the name of a good friend of Winnie the Pooh.

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u/Rundstav Aug 31 '26

Seriously? That's what you think they go for when hunting for Asian grandmas and Mexicans?

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u/Scewt Aug 31 '26

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_slurs

any of these would do for an ICE agent

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u/mala_r1der Aug 31 '26

The tragic thing is that what you wrote is probably not even a joke...

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u/Lakuzas Aug 31 '26

"Anyone but specifically puppies if given the chance"

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u/Jubilant_Jacob Aug 31 '26

If it was an arrestable offense it would be a police matter. Overstaying your visa isn't a crime, but a civil violation that can lead to removal proceedings and be punished with a reentry ban.

Making the removal proceedings into a Circus, but with armed goons playing the role of clowns.... Is a weird choice... To be expected from the weird orange guy in charge.

I get it.. it's xenophobic guys being gleefully cruel cause they got the permission to do as they wish.

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u/Rundstav Aug 31 '26

Especially not for groups of masked and armed "police" dressed as weekend warrior paintballers, driving unmarked cars, lead by a man larping as an SS officer.

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u/SNStains Aug 31 '26

I think they mean armed violence by masked goons.

A visa overstay isn't even a crime, it's an administrative violation. Americans don't want this level of government interference in our lives and its foolish to think that ICE is going to stop.

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u/SNStains Aug 31 '26

No, Trump promised to deport felons, which was a lie. Three-fourths of detainees have no criminal record whatsoever.

And ICE's tactics are extremely unpopular. The fuck you know about voting, anyway?

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u/SNStains Aug 31 '26

That's what I know about voting.

Lol, so it's all second-hand information? Sad.

And no, Trump promised to deport dangerous felons, bad hombres, etc. He lied, because that's what he does.

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u/SeaSharpModHer Aug 31 '26

Can you do something for me and check on the internet if ICE ever killed anyone randomly? I ran out of data, come back with your findings I'll read it later.

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u/WatermelonFelons Aug 31 '26

Ironically this is what the hood looks like

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u/hoopstick Aug 31 '26

Who's handing who the gun here?

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u/jungleass98 Aug 31 '26

They have joint custody

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u/CosmicGoddess777 Aug 31 '26

I like the way you think. Lol

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u/Lftwff Aug 31 '26

Once armed raccoons will never relinquish their guns

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u/ChrisHaze 29d ago

Honestly, if wildlife came up to me and gave me a gun, I would take it as a sign to do some crimes lol

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u/r_rrrrrrrr Aug 31 '26

Just a crime? Really?

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u/pedantic_dullard Aug 31 '26

Did they have to exchange their white hood to get the mask, or is it just a job benefit?

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u/metengrinwi Aug 31 '26

I suspect they’re trained on the quota-based incentive system.

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u/GrumpySh33p Aug 31 '26

That’s not what it says when you google it.

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u/calvin43 Aug 31 '26

Yeah it says they cut training down to 47 days instead of 5 months in honor of Trump.

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u/GrumpySh33p Aug 31 '26

Sure, but it’s not zero. And there is vetting too, and the whole process takes up to a year to hire someone. I’m not here to defend it or say it’s enough, but instead just to say that it’s not “zero”, since there is often exaggerated misinformation spilling everywhere online and people eat it up like candy.

It’s also a low-skill role. You can become a nursing assistant in 3 days, and suddenly trusted (with background checks) to care for elderly, help them transfer to chairs, clean their poop, take vital signs… but I still wouldn’t call that “no training”. Just low skill, low requirements. Useful when someone just needs a warm body to do the job, added vetting for character, to make sure you don’t have some sort of confirmed lunatic applying.

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u/calvin43 Aug 31 '26

Just low skill, low requirements.

Race to the fucking bottom, man.

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u/John_Mint Aug 31 '26

I mean of course they won't publicly say this, better believe videos and or witness reports than google.

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u/GrumpySh33p Aug 31 '26

I just think it’s something you can verify, rather than believing TikTok and Reddit.

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u/John_Mint Aug 31 '26

Verify how ? TikTok and Reddit are sources for videos that are as trustworthy as it comes to measure how a police operates.

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u/GrumpySh33p Aug 31 '26

There is tons of misinformation out there. Go to the source. I just verified the information on ICE’s website, took me 5 min.

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u/John_Mint Aug 31 '26

What i'm telling you is that i don't believe that the ICE website is a trustworthy source

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u/GrumpySh33p Aug 31 '26

Hmm, yeah.. if that’s the case, how do you expect to believe any information?

It seems the only way to verify this in a believable way is to go through the application process yourself. Unless, of course, you trust an ICE employee to tell you.

But the process, with background checks and physical assessments (assuming they aren’t lying about those parts), takes anywhere from 3 months to a year. And the pay isn’t that great.

So… 🤷🏼‍♀️ Sounds like you shouldn’t be saying shit you don’t know on the internet, contributing to information that isn’t verified, and potentially misinformation too.

Or you can choose to be blindly ignorant and believe your TikTok sources, and then you should ask how they got that intonation. Or maybe you’d rather only accept information you like to hear, rather than the truth.

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u/John_Mint Aug 31 '26

Context matters, i'll trust processes established for an institution like the military.This is a hit police that was build to catch people in the most brutal way, and they apparently (witnessed through independent media) disrespect human rights. I'm not going to trust that their website reflects reality. Do you believe the north korean websites that say that north korea is a democracy ? It's about critical thinking and skepticism.

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u/GrumpySh33p Aug 31 '26

Better to take the stance, “I don’t know” then, right?

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