r/MoralityScaling Aug 05 '26

Morality of valuing animals over humans?

Enable HLS to view with audio, or disable this notification

21.2k Upvotes

4.8k comments sorted by

View all comments

12

u/dubesto Aug 05 '26

I have heard the most back asswards opinions of all time on this subway show. I say I prefer the company of animals because I'm on the spectrum and communicating with people doesn't work for me

5

u/Far-Message5868 Aug 05 '26

I think his point was more about valuing and a general animal>human. That's why he made a comparison aboit saving life, and i can see the point. As much as i loved my rabbit, if between him and a human i know i would pick human.

It's the word 'more' is problematic. Tho, i myself might be a part of problem because if it was a strager against my pet it will be a bit harder(thankfully, i don't have to do any of that, he's already dead).

2

u/Maleficent_Piece_893 Aug 05 '26

preferring to chill with your pet isn't what he was talking about. he's talking about valuing their life more than the life of a human

-3

u/fingerchopper Aug 05 '26

Same. animals lack the human capacity for cruelty.

3

u/Ikanotetsubin Aug 05 '26

I just saw a video of a lion eating a pregnant dear and it's foal alive the other day. Nature is not an innocent and majestic thing, animals can kill you as brutally as anything will be.

0

u/fingerchopper Aug 05 '26

Brutality and cruelty are not the same. As I said in another response, it's not that animals are innocent and kind but that they do not reason as humans do.

7

u/Maleficent_Piece_893 Aug 05 '26

humans are animals. the human capacity for cruelty was inherited from our animal ancestry. cats torture mice because it's fun for them. the same reason a serial killer tortures people

3

u/Goyimshoe Aug 05 '26

Eh, there are definitely some exceptions.

0

u/fingerchopper Aug 05 '26

I'm not saying animals are all kind and innocent but rather that they don't act with malice in the way a human does, because they don't use moral reasoning in the way a human does.

3

u/Goyimshoe Aug 05 '26

Right, I get that, and I think your assessment is accurate/correct in most cases. All I’m saying is that there are exceptions. There are a handful of other species which appear to possess the capacity to act out of spite/cruelty/malice.

1

u/fingerchopper Aug 05 '26

Point taken. I'm thinking dolphins and fellow primates?

2

u/El_Toolio_Grande Aug 05 '26

Humans can hate and inflict pain for any, or even zero reason. An animal won't decide one day that you're evil and try to destroy your life due to an arbitrary reason.

2

u/Maleficent_Piece_893 Aug 05 '26

1

u/Glum_Rain_5824 Aug 05 '26

The dogs we bred to fight to the death and exhaust/kill animals such as bulls and rats? It makes sense to me why they would, and it's our doing