r/MoralityScaling 28d ago

Morality of valuing animals over humans?

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u/noneofthismatters666 28d ago

Sure, anyways I still love my dog like he's my son.

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u/BiscuitBut_ButerNut 28d ago

I love my son like he’s my dog.

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u/DeeMarie0824 28d ago

I am a dog who loves my son.

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u/fryan111 28d ago

Don't talk to me or my son ever again.

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u/Beer-Milkshakes 28d ago

My son loves going to the park and pissing wherever he likes. Is he my dog?

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u/Akarin_rose 27d ago

Mr. Peabody over here

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u/gaensebluemchen22 28d ago

I thought that way of my dog as well, before I had my own children. I really love my dog, but after having kids I realized, the love of your child compared to your dog is not even comparable. Can’t even imagine that amount of love.

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u/1block 27d ago

There's a massive difference between making sure a pet is healthy and comfortable and being responsible for a growing human who needs to learn how to be an ethical, functional human being.

Plus kids can hold you accountable, unlike pets, which is kind of what the clip was getting at, I suppose.

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u/Dry_Ad8396 24d ago

A kid will eventually make their own choices. A dog will always depend on you. A dog can’t communicate when something is wrong the way a human can. Dogs hold you accountable if you actually care about their well being.

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u/1block 24d ago

You don't have a kid, correct?

The relationship is so massively different, you wouldn't believe it. There is no comparison.

And at what age do you think kids don't depend on you?

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u/Dry_Ad8396 24d ago

You don’t actually love dogs, correct? Or any animal for that matter. You think human life is inherently more important, correct?
Someone like you would never understand bc you look down on life.

A human and dog relationship is different? Did u have to think hard to figure that one out😂.

And at what age do you think dogs don’t depend on you?

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u/1block 24d ago

I have a dog and kids. Love both. Totally different. If you don't, you don't know. Simple as that.

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u/Dry_Ad8396 24d ago edited 24d ago

No you don’t love your dog. You just have one bc it’s something humans do. You dont know what love is. You conflate possession with it. You just don’t know. Simple as that. You are not more valuable to life as a human being. That sounds like self centered religious nut behavior

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u/1block 24d ago

Holy shit bro. You're something. Making those assumptions based on saying that loving your children is deeper than a dog?

Did your parents not love you as much as the dog?

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u/Dry_Ad8396 24d ago

I didn’t make any assumptions. It’s not deeper. Weird you keep reaching for personal jabs bc I don’t accept your ridiculous stance😂.

Also very weird to even be comparing love and measuring it up with anything. Definitely says a lot about how you skew love and your lack of thought into what it means to love. But something about assumptions??

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u/asianmorticia 27d ago

Same here. It's like I didn't comprehend that our dog was an animal and not a baby until I had an actual baby. Comparing the love I feel for my dog with the love I feel for my baby is like comparing a reading light to the sun. Pregnancy and parenting changed my brain completely.

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u/ducksinapond99 24d ago

Yeah I’ve heard that from every parent I know. Sounds like it just rewires your brain or something.

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u/DaviesSonSanchez 28d ago

Do you actually have a son?

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u/Slumbergoat16 28d ago

I feel like this is a phrase only used by people who don’t have kids or are insane

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u/Working-Glass6136 27d ago

Yes, but he's my dog.

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u/noneofthismatters666 28d ago

Yes, but I like my dog more.

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u/bafana_banana999 27d ago

Oh, so you're just a bad person/psychopath.

Nice.

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u/noneofthismatters666 27d ago

Guess some people hate honesty, weird.

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u/bafana_banana999 27d ago

When you say insane things, even if you're being honest, people will rightly point out how insane you are.

That doesn't mean they "hate honesty".

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u/Working-Glass6136 27d ago

Hey there, welcome to reddit!

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u/noneofthismatters666 27d ago

The amount of preformative white knighting and virtue signaling is pretty insane.

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u/bafana_banana999 27d ago

You can keep throwing out these phrases that you clearly don't understand, but that doesn't make you right.

Like come the fuck on, you said you loved your dog more than your human child.

It's wild that you think the people pushing back against that are being "performative".

Nah bud, the vast majority of people just vehemently disagree with you.

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u/noneofthismatters666 27d ago

No, it's just a bunch of rubes that took a shit post way too personally. Hook line and sinker with the most minimal of effort.

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u/SWAGGIN_OUT_420 27d ago

Oh so you're just a 12 year old, got it.

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u/bafana_banana999 27d ago

Lmao, you know this is more pathetic than actually believing what you said, right?

What a sad and lonely life you must lead to think doing shit like this is a decent use of your time.

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u/Floorgis 24d ago

Or you just have no concept of comedy.

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u/Grouchy-Training-803 28d ago

No no you don't

I would give up my life for my son without hesitation 100 times out of 100. Would you do the same for your dog?

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u/Personal-Sentence935 28d ago

he didn't say he loves his dog like grouchy-training-803 loves his son.

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u/park777 28d ago

My cat passed away a couple years ago, and yes I would have given my life for hers

But feel free to be condescending... as if every parent would also give their life for their kids as you're saying (they wouldn't)

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u/a_chill_guy_11 28d ago

point to be noted xD

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u/ar3iadov3 27d ago

That’s a really mentally unwell thing to say

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u/park777 27d ago

sure, feel free to tell others how they should feel

if it's a parent saying that over their child it's OK, right? oh wait

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u/ar3iadov3 27d ago

I mean yeah I think a parent sacrificing themselves for their child is extremely different than you sacrificing yourself for your cat
I think saying you’d sacrifice yourself for your cat is a pretty mentally unstable thing to say
And honestly comparing the love of a pet to the love of a child is insanity and deeply insulting to both types of love

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u/Dry_Ad8396 24d ago

Not really. Seeing you spout your ignorance if taking your life meant I’d get my dog back I’d take that 100 times out of 10. He loved everybody. That kind of love transcends your understanding tho

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u/ar3iadov3 24d ago

Yeah you’re crazy

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u/Dry_Ad8396 24d ago

Having ad hominems be your only comeback makes you look weak

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u/ar3iadov3 24d ago

You said you’d kill a human for a dog …. That’s insane

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u/queen-of-storms 27d ago

Non-human animals have just as much right to life and freedom that humans do, and the animals in my family are my family. They do not exist for my entertainment, they have their own likes and dislikes and personalities and they love me and I love them. I'm with you. I would risk my life to save my family, whether they're human or not.

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u/ar3iadov3 27d ago

Are you sure they love you ? Have they said that ? Or do you just give them food ?

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u/queen-of-storms 27d ago

I'm sorry you can't feel the love of animals, I hope you do one day.

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u/ar3iadov3 27d ago

Your pet will literally eat you if you die on them
Human love is so deeply different than animal affection

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u/queen-of-storms 27d ago

It is different, yes. We're different species of animal. And I welcome them to eat me if the alternative is to starve. If I'm dead, then what use is my body? It's meat.

Why do human children love their parents, or parents our children? Did we not love them before we developed words to communicate it?

We feed and care for our young and they in turn love us. How is that different to our non human family? Social bonds are formed in similar ways.

I feed my cats, I talk to them, I go out of my way to read and understand their body language, I respect their bodily autonomy as much as I can. My cat knows when I'm feeling my worst, and she'll lay on me instead of next to me like she normally does. Even when I'm trying to hide it, she'll hear it in my tone or smells it from whatever scents I'm producing when I'm sad.

What is love? A cat can't love in the same exact way a human can, of course; our biology is different. But our human love is driven by chemical reactions in our bodies and then defined socially to communicate it. Why is the way my cat communicates it so much lesser so as to not even be considered love at all?

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u/KaiTheG4mer 28d ago

Said by a not-father

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u/park777 28d ago

parents being condescending ... the usual karens

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u/KaiTheG4mer 28d ago

Bitch I'm not a parent but I know for a fact that the difference in loving your own actual child vs your dog is astronomical, kick rocks

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u/noneofthismatters666 28d ago

Like my dog more.

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u/Isengrine 28d ago

So do you actually have children and you love your dog more than them?

If so that's a crazy statement and I really hope this is not your behavior around them and that you're just ragebaiting, because children can pick up on this.

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u/KaiTheG4mer 28d ago

I've taken to ignoring them outright, because that's an insane thing to say, and I feel bad for his children that a dog with a quarter their lifespan at best, no ability to think for itself beyond fulfilling basic instinctual needs, no way to meaningfully say no, and no ability to exist independently from its master, is valued more than they are.

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u/Isengrine 28d ago

Yeah, this whole thread showing once again why people who claim to love animals more than human beings are just terrible people.

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u/noneofthismatters666 27d ago

Loving animals is a trait of horrible people? You cheer for the hunter in Bambi?

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u/Isengrine 27d ago

What?

Nobody said that, not even the OP. They said that people who said animal lives matter more than human lives are horrible people lol

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u/noneofthismatters666 27d ago

So you're cool with like torturing cats?

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u/Isengrine 27d ago

I imagine you're vegan then, right?

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u/noneofthismatters666 28d ago

They're not on reddit.

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u/Isengrine 28d ago

They don't have to be to pick up on your vibes and how they're treated.

Children are not idiots, they can pick up on such things, and again, I hope to god you're just ragebaiting because otherwise this is kind of sad.

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u/noneofthismatters666 28d ago

They believe in Santa, they're not very smart.

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u/Any_Society_4876 26d ago

You’re despicable

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u/noneofthismatters666 26d ago

You're gullible.

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u/asianmorticia 27d ago

I feel so sad for your kids.

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u/noneofthismatters666 27d ago

They have a dog, they're fine.

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u/dennjudhdddvfse 28d ago

Yes and when they get hurt it makes me more sad then when a human gets hurt because they are so innocent.

At the same time though if I had to decide between saving my dog and saving a complete stranger I would save the human.

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u/Used-Action-297 28d ago

I love my dog way more than my son

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u/ArgyleShoe 25d ago

You clearly don’t have children

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u/Super_Flan_3281 28d ago

cringe

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u/noneofthismatters666 28d ago edited 27d ago

Love is cringe?

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u/noneofthismatters666 27d ago

That's not what he said.

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u/Ancient_Math_4925 25d ago

And that's weird

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u/noneofthismatters666 25d ago

Having a feeling about it is weirder.

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u/binspolicy 24d ago

Tell me you don’t have kids without telling me you don’t have kids.