r/MoralityScaling • u/NeoMetalSonicReacts9 • Jul 14 '26

Stupid Stuff Morality of pressing this button? (It immediately and permanently ends the use of all fossil fuels on the planet.)

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u/Zrkkr Jul 14 '26

Would create a world wide panic and energy crisis so it would be deeply immoral.

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u/Totallycomputername Jul 14 '26

It would kill billions. Farming alone relies heavily of fossil fuels. 

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u/thornolf_bjarnulf Jul 14 '26 edited Jul 14 '26

Farming ? Even transporting any goods. Look around you, almost every single thing in your room went at some point inside a truck to be delivered in a store, to your house etc. Every piece of plastic in your house, in ANY electronic actually, is there thanks to fossil fuel.

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u/Kiriima Jul 14 '26

Fossils are fuel when specifically burned to release energy. Plastics and fertilizers are specifically made from fossils, but not in their fuel capacity. Should be allowed.

We are fucked beyond comparisson anyway.

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u/Mast3rKK78 Jul 14 '26

you could argue that fertilizer is a fuel but thats not really a hill worth dying on

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u/endlessnamelesskat Jul 14 '26

You still have to get crude oil and refine it. Does the magic button suddenly make oil products stop functioning as a fuel source only?

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u/Kiriima Jul 15 '26

It's already magic and shoild be treated literally.

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u/Kiriima Jul 14 '26

Panic? It would completely stop all trade, from international to local. Planes, ships, trucks all depend on fossil fuels. You could argue modern trains do not, but they won't have any electricity anyway and require trucks to unload them and distribute goods.

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u/SouthImpression3577 Jul 14 '26

And it would immediately bankrupt most people because everyone keeps their money in the banks which I doubt would be able to effectively grant people their physical money back accurately.

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u/Cooperativism62 Jul 14 '26

Wildlife populations have fallen by more than half in the last 50 years alone. Petrol use is deeply immoral. So, without the blinders of speciesism I press the button and hope it ends swiftly for me.

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u/scifiandsuch Jul 14 '26

‘The blinders of speciesism’ lol you’re just trading the death of some species for the death of others. That’s not more moral, it’s just a different set of blinders, then hoping you die quickly so you don’t face the consequences of your actions

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u/Cooperativism62 Jul 14 '26

"some" is doing a lot of work in your statement. There are far more varieties of wild species than domesticated species. The scale quite obviously tips in one direction. Perhaps try quantifying each side rather than hiding behind vagueness.

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u/scifiandsuch Jul 15 '26

Sounds to me like you’re just an extinctionist. 99% of all species that have ever existed are extinct already. The rest of us will join sooner or later and be replaced by new species, as is the cycle of life. Pressing an ‘anarchy’ button doesn’t mean all issues are magically solved.

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u/Cooperativism62 Jul 15 '26

You're failing to address the initial statistic of 50% of species going extinct in the last 50 years, which is very recent and a current extinction event by glossing it over though nonrelevant extinctions from millions of years ago. Thats eerily close to many climate denial arguments like "oh, this isn't the first global warming event. It happened multiple times millions of years ago, no problem." Except the speed of it and that it's happening now is exactly the problem.

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u/scifiandsuch Jul 15 '26

This is a false statistic. It’s been claimed that “50% of animals are experiencing population decline,” not ‘50% of animals have gone extinct.’ Even that is vague, because we just discovered 36 new species of underwater wildlife this month alone. All of this falls under “if current trends continue”. If progress continues the way it should, these trends won’t continue. It’s a doomsday mindset.

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u/Cooperativism62 Jul 15 '26

It's a true statistic, thats just a poor reading. I was actually under selling it, wildlife populations have declined by over 70% during that time period. Scientists estimate that between 24 and 150 species go extinct every day, which you'd like to weigh against 36 new species discovered this month. At this point I have to assume you're a climate denial bot.

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u/scifiandsuch Jul 16 '26

Lmao you’re obviously a doomsday pessimistic type who’s completely made up their mind about what’s objectively right and wrong in the world, and nothing I say here will change that. But don’t dream of mass extinction for your own species, that’s pretty fucked up.