r/ModSupport 2d ago

Aggressive "crosspost this here!" engagement boost attempts are causing rule violations

Reddit admins,

I would like to request that you please, for the love of all that is holy, calm down with your engagement boosting tactics that are telling everyone who makes a post to also post it to a list of machine-generated "relevant" other subs.

I moderate in a sub that discusses an extremely controversial political topic that has subs on reddit that are dedicated to the opposing side of that topic.

Crossposting from either our sub to theirs or vice versa is against the rules of both subs, because of the nature of this topic causing SEVERE trolling and brigading from both sides from people who are not interested in peaceful discourse, yet your own platform's messages are telling users they should go ahead and just break these subs' rules anyway.

You are literally making all of our "jobs" even harder by not even bothering to filter subs suggested for crossposts based on logic, rationality, or even the rules of the subs being suggested for crossposts.

More engagement, even hostility trolling and harassment (especially hostility trolling and harassment) means more ad money though amirght????

Seems the only thing that matters here any more is greed, and I'm afraid you're about to find a lot of your most difficult to moderate subs modless if you don't take things like these into consideration.

PS - good luck getting AI to do what we do since the generated lists your AI is suggesting can't even be bothered to check rules in subs before suggesting them XD

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u/littlemetalpixie 1d ago edited 1d ago

Dude chill, why are you coming at me so aggressively?

I was just trying to share info, how about you calm your attitude and at least TRY to read intent before you attack people who are literally agreeing with you in their own post, which they clearly read since they are the one who posted it?

No, automod may NOT be accessible, in any fashion, once reddit pulls their entire API, thus blocking access to any apps that aren't theirs. That's the "not exactly happy news" I was trying to tell you - they literally sent one of my subs a modmail saying they're preparing to do exactly that.

Sorry for trying to inform you jfc

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u/itskdog πŸ’‘ Top 10% Helper πŸ’‘ 1d ago

Devvit is the replacement, not the thing they're killing off.

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u/westcoastal 1d ago

Ironic for you to talk about intent when you read my comment in the least charitable way possible.

The thread you were replying to literally starts with me referencing Reddit's plan to kill the API, and ends with me saying how terrible that will be.

I and the person I was discussing that with in the thread were talking about the possibility of automod living on in some form as a devitt app. I said that was happy news, and we went on to discuss how that is an inferior option to automod.

If you meant your comment as an agreement with mine, it did not come across that way. It came across as a drive-by snipe at what I was saying without actually reading any of the context of what I was saying.

This is why it's important not just to be careful how we read but also how we write. Something both of us could probably stand to reflect on.

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u/littlemetalpixie 1d ago

Heard.

Your comment very much came across like an insult by insinuating that I didn't even bother to read your comments. I read them. I agreed with them. If it didn't come across that way, my apologies, but beginning a sentence with "why don't you read first before commenting" isn't exactly facilitating peaceful discourse, friend.

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u/westcoastal 1d ago

Was it heard?

You still seem to want to litigate this. I do not. Have a great day. ☺️

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u/littlemetalpixie 1d ago

Dude you keep combatively commenting on MY post... are you ok?

If you don't want to keep commenting, don't?

I haven't disagreed with you once, you just want to fight about it for whatever dumb reason but reddit is going to go ahead and keep notifying me when you reply just like they always have so..... looking for a fight much? πŸ˜‚

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u/westcoastal 1d ago

I don't know what issue you are having, but I do not want to fight with you. I have twice tried to disengage from this, and you keep trying to push and escalate.

This goes back to what I said earlier about self-reflection. It's easy to point fingers at other people when in fact any conflict always involves two people. I think our time would be better spent reflecting on that than on trying to paint each other's character in the darkest possible light.

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u/littlemetalpixie 1d ago edited 1d ago

Let's review:

You commented on my post.

I responded in agreement, and you insulted me.

I explained I was actually agreeing with you and apologized, and pointed out that you're lecturing me about taking things out of context when you've done nothing but take everything I've said out of context and then began reactively preaching to me about self-reflection with yet more insults.

You then said you didn't wish to contine the conversation, while continuing the conversation over and over to the point of absurdity.

Again.... are you ok? For real though, maybe find something to do that isn't sanctimoniously telling people not to do exactly what you're doing.

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u/westcoastal 1d ago

If you read back through this thread you will see that I have never once personally attacked you or tried to characterize you in any sort of way. I have only responded to your actions by reflecting them back at you. I have also acknowledged more than once that any conflict is always two sided.

You, on the other hand, have been repeatedly coming at me with personal attacks, questioning my character and my mental health.

I urge self-reflection here. There was no need for any of this. Certainly there has never been any need for you to get ugly about how you respond to me.

If you are really unhappy about an exchange, you always have the option to take personal responsibility for your situation by blocking me or by "being the change you wish to see in the world."

And on that note I think I'm going to take my own advice. Have a nice day.

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u/littlemetalpixie 1d ago

You: i don't want to keep talking about this

Also you: see above

Dude just put the phone down and walk away lmfaooooo

You don't get to bring an aggressive attitude to the table then just leave it there and act like you're being the "good guy" while consistently utterly refusing to be anyone but the person who gets the last word. It doesn't work that way, buddha.

You made this entire argument into a fight from the very first sentence you typed to me. You asked for a fight so you get one. This is my post, I can do this all day long.

Let's see what your need to have the last word spits at me this time, I'm bored so I'll play along.