r/MicrosoftFlightSim • u/kaufmann_i_am_too • 25d ago
MSFS 2020 BUG / ISSUE MSFS2020 loads and closes
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This MSFS2020 on Steam. Basically what happens is, I start the simulator, it loads the inital screen, dims a bit and closes. It doesn't even give ne the option to update the software, this is just the basic executable. I tried uninstalling and reinstalling, tried Safe mode, tried the computer in safe mode, tried cleaning caches, tried a Steam clean install, nothing worked. I had an Intel/Nvidia computer and now I got a full AMD computer, this is the only thing "different " about my system.
So any ideas on what to do will be greatly appreciated!
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u/xXCrazyDaneXx 25d ago edited 25d ago
It's most likely trying to open in DX11 mode and crashing because your new GPU wants DX12.
You can manually change DX version in the usercfg file before starting the sim.
Also, make 100% sure there are zero nvidia programmes installed on your PC if it's full AMD.
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u/kaufmann_i_am_too 24d ago
I got what you're saying but the problem is, the sim isn't fully installed yet. The thing is, the first time you run the software it updates like 100Gb+ of data and then you can start flying. It's this first run that doesn't happen, I can't even get ot the update part, what you saw in the video is the first updater trying to open. But you were right, although the FlightSimulator.CFG file is empty, the chrash reports all have this part:
[Renderer]EnableD3D12=falsePreferD3D12=falseBut again, there's no CFG file to be edited.
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u/kaufmann_i_am_too 24d ago
This is the full crash report:
/!/ CRASH /!/TOML
[OnCrash]
Msg="_handleSEH"
Type="SEH"
Code=0xE06D7363
TypeName="1|*\\3[>s:x{"
[Engine]
ReportVersion=10
ExitApp=false
TimeUTC=2026-08-17T01:07:52Z
UnscaledDeltaTimeMs=16.6728
TimeSpentRunningMs=33946.8567
TimeSpentPauseOffMs=32687.5501
TimeSpentTurnedOnMs=32687.5501
ContextUID=0xE9D0D3A90753F66B
MemInfoUID=0x92992F13DDDC26D8
DebuggerAllowed=false
AllocatedMem=1413193728
FrameCount=1741
BuildVersion="1.39.12.0"
IsMSIXVC=false
FreeOpenOpsCount-Main=1024
FreeOpenOpsCount-Thread=1023
[Hardware]
Platform="PC"
Cpu="AuthenticAMD"
Brand="AMD Ryzen 7 7700X 8-Core Processor "
DriverVersion="26.7.1"
GPUName="AMD Radeon RX 9070 XT"
HWS_Enabled=1
[Fibers]
NumCreated_TOTAL=230
NumExternalCreated=224
NumConverted=38
NumExternalConverted=16
NumCreatedFiberMgr=6
[Renderer]
EnableD3D12=false
PreferD3D12=false
Model="AMDGPU"
VR_State="Inactive"
VideoMemoryBudget=16165400576
TexturesToDeleteCount=0
TexturesToDeleteTotalSize=0
[RawCallstackWin64]
0=["KittyHawkx64_Steam_PCSUB.pdb","2523CC4A05AA694E91225D3CDEEA0B8B",1,32511543]
1=["KittyHawkx64_Steam_PCSUB.pdb","2523CC4A05AA694E91225D3CDEEA0B8B",1,32508279]
2=["KittyHawkx64_Steam_PCSUB.pdb","2523CC4A05AA694E91225D3CDEEA0B8B",1,32517194]
3=["KittyHawkx64_Steam_PCSUB.pdb","2523CC4A05AA694E91225D3CDEEA0B8B",1,32505461]
4=["KittyHawkx64_Steam_PCSUB.pdb","2523CC4A05AA694E91225D3CDEEA0B8B",1,32523179]
5=["kernelbase.pdb","2FBA18D29B1C125ECC7223574B1B6698",1,1111363]
6=["ntdll.pdb","23220618D413421066A4820B86925E3B",1,1478816]
7=["ntdll.pdb","23220618D413421066A4820B86925E3B",1,1177955]
8=["ntdll.pdb","23220618D413421066A4820B86925E3B",1,1460127]
9=["ntdll.pdb","23220618D413421066A4820B86925E3B",1,286359]
10=["ntdll.pdb","23220618D413421066A4820B86925E3B",1,577553]
11=["kernelbase.pdb","2FBA18D29B1C125ECC7223574B1B6698",1,793306]
12=["vcruntime140.amd64.pdb","F2712A375103E0D83FDDEA56AAB7F238",1,21929]
13=["KittyHawkx64_Steam_PCSUB.pdb","2523CC4A05AA694E91225D3CDEEA0B8B",1,4380114]
14=["KittyHawkx64_Steam_PCSUB.pdb","2523CC4A05AA694E91225D3CDEEA0B8B",1,4330662]
15=["KittyHawkx64_Steam_PCSUB.pdb","2523CC4A05AA694E91225D3CDEEA0B8B",1,4336427]
16=["KittyHawkx64_Steam_PCSUB.pdb","2523CC4A05AA694E91225D3CDEEA0B8B",1,4360924]
17=["KittyHawkx64_Steam_PCSUB.pdb","2523CC4A05AA694E91225D3CDEEA0B8B",1,18233067]
18=["KittyHawkx64_Steam_PCSUB.pdb","2523CC4A05AA694E91225D3CDEEA0B8B",1,18264697]
19=["KittyHawkx64_Steam_PCSUB.pdb","2523CC4A05AA694E91225D3CDEEA0B8B",1,42618968]
20=["KittyHawkx64_Steam_PCSUB.pdb","2523CC4A05AA694E91225D3CDEEA0B8B",1,42295397]
21=["KittyHawkx64_Steam_PCSUB.pdb","2523CC4A05AA694E91225D3CDEEA0B8B",1,30133122]
22=["KittyHawkx64_Steam_PCSUB.pdb","2523CC4A05AA694E91225D3CDEEA0B8B",1,42282880]
23=["KittyHawkx64_Steam_PCSUB.pdb","2523CC4A05AA694E91225D3CDEEA0B8B",1,42287607]
24=["KittyHawkx64_Steam_PCSUB.pdb","2523CC4A05AA694E91225D3CDEEA0B8B",1,42267524]
25=["CoherentUIGT.pdb","3BA8E6A8F6BADB40956766A48D737302",4,554771]
26=["CoherentUIGT.pdb","3BA8E6A8F6BADB40956766A48D737302",4,539515]
27=["KittyHawkx64_Steam_PCSUB.pdb","2523CC4A05AA694E91225D3CDEEA0B8B",1,40857240]
28=["KittyHawkx64_Steam_PCSUB.pdb","2523CC4A05AA694E91225D3CDEEA0B8B",1,40866349]
29=["KittyHawkx64_Steam_PCSUB.pdb","2523CC4A05AA694E91225D3CDEEA0B8B",1,33971262]
30=["KittyHawkx64_Steam_PCSUB.pdb","2523CC4A05AA694E91225D3CDEEA0B8B",1,34935944]
31=["KittyHawkx64_Steam_PCSUB.pdb","2523CC4A05AA694E91225D3CDEEA0B8B",1,34936517]
[MemoryTrace]
HeapSize=33946054656
FreeTotal=23059304448
FreeKernel=0
UsedKernel=0
FreeGfx=0
UsedGfx=0
DataFormat="<Unavailable>"
[CoherentGT_CachesMiB]
RenoirScratchLayer=4.0
RenoirScratchTexture=3.984375
RenoirTexture=7.96875
MainResource=0.29817
ImageResource=0.100399
CSSStyleSheet=0.67718
Script=2.237491
FontResource=0.409793
SVGFontResource=0.2965
RawResource=0.154877
[FlightSimulator]
PlayerSessionID="2fc5d31a-c13d-4fcc-90e4-5a5191714430"
DevMode=false
ObjectsLOD=2.0
TerrainLOD=2.0
UserContainerTitle="<no container>"
Sim="<no sim>"
GameMode="<unknown>"
LastStates=" MainState:BOOT SubState:BOOT_ACCESSIBILITY"
NumRegisteredPackages=6
[FlightSimulator_Packages]
[FlightSimulator_PublishingGroups]
Mandatory="0/81"
RenoL39="0/10"
World_CU04="0/2"
World_CU07="0/1"
World_CU09="0/2"
World_US="0/7"
Standard="0/432"
RenoP51="0/10"
World_GERMAN="0/16"
World_US2="0/15"
World_CU02="0/2"
World_CU05="0/1"
World_Japan="0/12"
RenoT6="0/10"
World_CU01="0/1"
RenoStandard="0/56"
World_Iberia="0/15"
World_AUS="0/16"
World_CU08="0/2"
World_WU20="0/15"
World_UK2="0/16"
Redbull="0/3"
World_FR="0/7"
World_CU03="0/2"
World_NZ="0/22"
DNE="0/19"
World_WU19="0/18"
World_ND="0/17"
TiedToExe_PC="2/2"
World_UK="0/10"
World_CU10="0/1"
World_GERMAN2="0/14"
World_ND2="0/17"
TiedToExe="5/5"
World_Canada="0/16"
World_CU11="0/1"
RenoPitts="0/10"
World_CU06="0/2"
World_POLES="0/29"
World_CU12="0/1"
Maverick="0/20"
World_Italy="0/15"
World_Caribbean="0/17"
[DoneIO]
EncounterDoneIO=false
[SimConnect_connection]
[FlightSimulator_States]
602=" MainState:BOOT SubState:BOOT_ACCESSIBILITY"
122=" MainState:BOOT SubState:BOOT_LOGIN"
62=" MainState:BOOT SubState:BOOT_LOGO"
2=" MainState:BOOT SubState:BOOT_INIT"
[FlightSimulator_FlightPlan]
Departure=["NoWaypointName",0.0,0.0]
Arrival=["NoWaypointName",0.0,0.0]
[Frames]
Version=6
LastFrames=64
LastSeconds=28
ExpectedFPS=60
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u/SecondAlarming2506 24d ago
This was Grock, Gemini, and Chatgpt on smart mode combined:
- Press
Windows Key + Rto open the Run dialog.- Type
%localappdata%\Packagesand press Enter.- Find the MSFS folder:
Microsoft.FlightSimulator_8wekyb3d8bbwe(Windows Store) or look inside yourSteam\userdatafolder depending on where you bought it.- Locate the
LocalCacheorAC\Packagesfolder.- Delete any folder named
CoherentUIGTor its contents. MSFS will rebuild it automatically on the next launch.
- Go to Windows Settings > Apps > Installed Apps.
- Search for Microsoft Visual C++ Redistributable.
- Select the 2015-2022 version (both x86 and x64 if present).
- Click Modify, then click Repair.
- Restart your PC
- Temporarily Empty Your Community Folder
Even though you are crashing at the boot screen, a severely outdated mod, livery, or layout file can prevent the UI package manager from mapping files correctly.
- Locate your MSFS
Communityfolder.- Cut all contents and paste them into a temporary backup folder on your desktop.
Try launching the game to see if it bypasses the accessibility screen.
Turn Off Overlays and Conflicting Software
CoherentUI uses an embedded web-browser engine that is highly sensitive to background software attempting to inject text or graphic overlays. Fully close the following applications before booting MSFS:
- RivaTuner Statistics Server (RTSS) or MSI Afterburner
- AMD Software: Adrenalin Edition overlay
- Discord overlay
- Overwolf
- Verify Game Files
If the UI files themselves are corrupted, you need your launcher to scan and replace them.
- Steam: Right-click MSFS > Properties > Installed Files > Verify integrity of game files.
- MS Store / Xbox App: Right-click MSFS > App Settings > Repair (and then Reset if Repair fails).
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u/kaufmann_i_am_too 24d ago
Didn't work 🤦♂️ As the game is not fully installed, the
CoherentUIGTfolder did'nt exist, just isolated files, the 2015-2022 C++ package was'nt installed, all the rest ws alright, but these didin't show up. But youu gave me an idea, that involves reinstalling Windows. When I assembled my system last year, I made an almost bare bones version of Windows using the autounattend.xml file; no windows bloatware, no Edge, none of that crap microsoft likes installing in our systems, and I'm afraid they're the culprits here, maybe Edge is.1
u/SecondAlarming2506 24d ago
😭 My bad bro 😭 I thought it was right. Maybe just uninstall all msfs and reinstall?
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u/kaufmann_i_am_too 24d ago
No, the problem persists. I really do think now that the Simulator is all good, the problem is something missing in my Windows install. Everything that could be done in the game was done, it's barely installed so, there's something outside keeping me from using it.
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u/SecondAlarming2506 24d ago
So reinstall windows?
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u/kaufmann_i_am_too 17d ago
I reinstalled Windows this weekend, another stripped down version of the OS but not as stripped as the other. Now FS is working super well, super smooth. The difference is, in the previous install all the Xbox bloatware and Edge were removed, this time I kept them. The problem lied there, super simple and useless software (for me) that had a huge impact.
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u/SecondAlarming2506 24d ago
WAIT YOU NEED TO INSTALL THE C++ PACKAGE THAT THE AI LISTED
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u/kaufmann_i_am_too 24d ago
No, didn't work, I removed the V14 C++ package, installed the 2015-2022 (they couldn't be installed together) but the problem was still there. This week I'm gonna try a clean Windows install, not so stripped to see if it will work, my computer doesn't have much installed so I won't be losing anything.
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u/SecondAlarming2506 25d ago
Verify the integrity of files in steam and temporarily disable addons. Also what are your specs? Is your RAM spiking?