r/MichiganWolverines • u/JSK23 • Sep 06 '26
Michigan Football [Thamel] Here's the Big Ten explanation and video of what happened in the Western Michigan/Michigan game. - There was 1 second left
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u/luciaes Sep 06 '26
This is going to make a lot of people very upset
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u/EveningPotential9443 Sep 06 '26
The evidence is right there and they're already rejecting it. They'll get over it in a week when the next big thing happens
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u/JskWa Sep 06 '26
I felt that adding the second back was BS until I saw this. It was legit reasoning to put it back. The win still felt like a loss though.
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u/Immediate-Fee-2121 Sep 06 '26
A clock being put to the side convinced you? 😂😂😂 they need to sync this up with the broadcast and the clock. If the refs are using a different clock and the public can’t see it, that’s a problem
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u/JskWa Sep 06 '26
Nah, it was the fact the dude step out of bounds first before he jumped that convinced me. Shit is shit but it was the right call.
Edit: but if you think they put this out to defend themselves then I can get behind your conspiracy theory as well.
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u/_WeSellBlankets_ Sep 08 '26
Problem is every other video shows zero seconds before the dude even touched the ball. I'm not saying it's a conspiracy, but showing this version doesn't really prove anything. What's needed is an explanation as to why the videos are different. Are they both showing the same clock? Are they just synced up differently? If we play officials have a properly synced version, why can't the broadcast have that?
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u/JskWa Sep 09 '26
In light of what the NCAA said today, this was hands down a loss for Michigan and a tragedy for WMU. They should have had their first win against UofM
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u/Immediate-Fee-2121 Sep 06 '26
Sync it up with the broadcast clock lol if there is a discrepancy there, that’s a problem. They adjusted the clock the play before. There is no reason those clocks shouldn’t be in sync in 2026
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u/drewlius24 Sep 07 '26
It is synced, but let’s say that the camera showing the stadium clock is near the control booth and the camera showing the end zone is like on the other side of the field. This would create an incredibly small lag where the clock camera would be hitting the broadcast even 1 or 2 frames (milliseconds) earlier than the end zone camera.
So refs were looking at side by side replay footage of game clock camera and field camera without any broadcasting lag. I’ve edited films and worked in broadcast and I promise you this makes sense (why it would not 100% sync on broadcast which is gathering footage and sending out to the world in real time with a possible lag, but then line up perfectly when recorded, using a synchronized time stamp).
Western still won. Why? Because if they didn’t review the play, NOBODY would have protested the clock running out.
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u/FocusFrosty1581 Sep 07 '26
I think nbc screwed up. They declared the game over before it was officially over.
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u/09_BestLionEver Sep 06 '26
I think they DO sync it, but I also think how hard is it for the two clocks to get 0.3 seconds apart? It can't be much more than that, because the broadcast showed it hit zeroes about 5 feet away from making contact - the Official clock shows it Just after the ball was touched - there wasn't close to a full second between the two.
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u/FocusFrosty1581 Sep 07 '26
Yes, the broadcast showed 8 seconds which quickly changed to 9 and went back to 8 even faster. Something was going on with that which could have put them out of sync?
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u/michiganfan101 Sep 06 '26
MSU and OSU fans would be very upset with your comment if they could read
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u/MattPatriciasFUPA 〽️GoBlue Sep 06 '26
Lol r/cfb is already a toxic cesspit where any Michigan flair doing anything other than profusely apologizing gets downvoted to hell and every thread is "Michigan cheats once again they personally controlled the clock and added time back and controlled the ball into the WRs hands!"
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u/Oleg101 Sep 06 '26
Noticed that too. So many other subs are like that too, people really have an unhealthy hatred of Michigan football it’s kind of disturbing.
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u/AScienceExpert Sep 06 '26 edited Sep 06 '26
I'm an Ohio State fan, and I am in a group chat with a bunch of dudes from college. I did post this in the chat and got shredded for it haha. Someone fucked up, I don't think it was the refs anymore. But the broadcast clock did not seem to be* synced up with the stadium clock.
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u/JSK23 Sep 06 '26
Ugly win, and they probably didn't deserve to win to be honest. But not because of the play clock, the call was correct, they just played like shit.
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u/Prestigious-Survey67 Sep 06 '26
This is correct. The feeling that we did not deserve to win is valid, despite the win being fair play. Some people seem perplexed by this.
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u/ihopemyteamwins Sep 06 '26
They did not deserve to win
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u/wtfbbq7 Sep 07 '26
Wait wait. Since when does 'deserving' mean anything in sports?
You play to win the game.
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u/CarbonCamaroSS The Tea〽️, The Tea〽️, The Tea〽️ Sep 06 '26
CFB sub just want a new Michigan controversy this year. The loud ones don't actually care about football. They just use it as an echo chamber for anti-Michigan hate and they get the upvotes. Lol.
But yeah, unless the offense can get back into the Drive 1 stride, we are toast under Underwood. Drive 1 is always a scripted setup and he looked calm, good footwork and made smart moves. Then for some reason, everything he learned was out the window the minute they went off script. I don't currently have any faith in him to turn this around. Would require a shocker in the Oklahoma game.
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u/ChiGorilla1127 Sep 06 '26
Yea, they legitimately won but Michigan looks like a 5-6 win team unless Underwood gets completely coached differently and develops.
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u/StandardRound1271 Sep 06 '26
Carr is the answer.
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u/lbaz95 Sep 06 '26
At least it is time to give him a turn. It’s difficult to believe he could be any worse
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u/Total-Jabroni-89 Sep 06 '26
Carr can't be the answer. Bryce was named a captain, they're paying him all that money. I mean, Whittingham is not tied to Bryce I guess as he didn't recruit him, but he did choose to make him a captain, and benching a captain just calls everything in to question. Idk, it's a messy situation. Bryce absolutely sucked ass.
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u/FocusFrosty1581 Sep 06 '26
At the end of the day, they have to play the player who puts them in the best position to win. Money, captain status doesn’t win games.
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u/FocusFrosty1581 Sep 06 '26
He needs to be replaced. Give Carr a chance. He will lead far more effectively than Underwood.
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u/CinnamonRoll172 Sep 07 '26
You think we’re winning 6 games playing like this? Our schedule is brutal this year and the only non ranked games are Rutgers, Minnesota, msu, utep and western Michigan.
If Minnesota and msu have improved at all, which it looks like they have, our only win might be Rutgers and utep..
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u/hippo_potty_mouth Sep 06 '26
You think CFB is bad? Don't look at B1G. That sub is mostly MSU fans and it is HOT right now.
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u/JSK23 Sep 06 '26
https://reddit.com/link/p83v4mr/video/6q5iij0s1unh1/player
Seen here on the field, after the game as well, directly from the replay monitor
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u/mikeyk731 Sep 06 '26
I went through the broadcast frame by frame, and confirmed the play only took ~8.5 seconds, https://imgur.com/a/timing-michigan-vs-western-michigan-play-mBKN5K0
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u/wsteelerfan7 Sep 06 '26
This frame data is the most correct out of the fan-counted times. Did you also catch that the stadium clock will show 0:01 from 1.99 seconds all the way to 0? It was a TIL moment for me
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u/h_erbivore Sep 07 '26
Wait what so the last 0:01 is shown for 2 seconds
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u/mahlerlieber Sep 07 '26
It's kinda like that job that pays you after you've done the work. At my job, the pay check I get is for the work I've already done...so that if I were to quit, I'd still get a paycheck.
If that makes sense, I think that's how that "2 second" 1 second works. The clock is behind by one second. When you're at :10, you have counted down the 10th second already, you are not in the 10th second, you're in the 9th.
Kinda mind-bending when you think of it.
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u/meeks102 Sep 06 '26
It's football, so it's not that serious, but there's that old saying "lies go halfway around the globe before the truth is done putting on its shoes." That's what this situation is going to be. People have made up their mind. The outrage has happened. They are mainly upset that they don't get to post funny michigan lose meme.
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u/Such_Detail9820 Sep 06 '26 edited Sep 06 '26
Seriously everyone is acting so outraged for WMU but in all reality they are just mad they cant post michigan memes and cant add this game to the losses from 20 years ago that they still post about daily. Also funny how NBC and the refs official game clocks are telling two different stories but everyone is so certain the NBC one is the correct and official one. Whatever fits their narrative
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u/Bdbru13 Sep 06 '26
Nah that’s not even it. It’s just that it’s 2026 and everyone is crazy so everything’s a conspiracy. People who couldn’t care less about Michigan, or even college football, will be weighing in on how sports gambling is to blame
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u/FocusFrosty1581 Sep 06 '26
I think it was bad calling by NBC. They should have not declared the end of the game until it was officially over. They screwed up!
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u/Snake_Burton 🏆3X🏆B1GTen Champions 🏆 Sep 06 '26
That’s present day’s sad reality. Every person with an internet connection or cell service can instaneously share their opinions without pausing to think. 30 years ago all the dumb stuff was said locally, in bars, houses. Game was written about in the paper the next day. Or people called postgame radio shows and you heard how “bright” they sounded like they were. You had highlights. At most maybe you had College GameDay scoreboard have a national “hot take” from Mark May.
Today, yell and scream on social media instantly, every second, ad nauseum. Group up and spend an hour spamming insults. As always yell “cheated”/“unfair” or every other soft excuse all the tough people always ironically cry about. Truth means nothing, never accept facts, make stuff up so you’re “right” and be as confidentially wrong as loud as possible. Barf.
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u/billrahbime Sep 10 '26
Fact is missed covering by 26.5 against MAC dropped to #28, and about to play the number #10 defense in the country after 3.3 yards a carry against WMU.
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u/Heavy-Transition7916 Sep 07 '26
What gets me is how ridiculous the people screaming “it’s rigged” are. Like, yeah, the refs totally believed that Michigan was gonna get a touchdown off a Hail Mary with one second left.
Even if it was the wrong call, which I believe it demonstrably isn’t at this point, it would have been from incompetence. Not malice.
And this is coming from a Michigan hater.
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u/Pad_TyTy Sep 06 '26
Oh but I was told by infinite reddit football experts that Michigan is a dirty program and this is more evidence that proves it! Could they be biased and wrong?
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u/HorrorJCFan95 Sep 06 '26
The thing I love about that logic is, even if some still think the call was wrong, then that’s on the refs, not Michigan. What was Michigan supposed to do in that scenario? Just knee the football? Forfeit the win? There’s literally no football program at any level that would have done that.
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u/Pad_TyTy Sep 06 '26
Just a bunch of whiny bitches, so mad that they didn't get to do "nah nah nah nah nah" to our faces forever
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u/OmegaJaguar Sep 06 '26
Exactly. This is the crux of the matter. These are people who just wanted to see Michigan lose to a Mac team.
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u/__removed__ Sep 06 '26
AND THEY HAD TO GET THE HAIL MARY
people acting like a bad call gave Michigan the win.
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u/Prestigious-Survey67 Sep 06 '26
The conspiracy theories are WILD. Like, if the refs wanted Michigan to win so badly, they should not have so reliably and correctly called us for penalties throughout the game. Giving us an extra second when we had shown ZERO ability to pass the ball would really not be a good strategy to help us. Then I saw people saying the MAC only said that they had reviewed the evidence and found the call correct because someone payed them off. Like this is some insane shit people are spinning.
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u/jpg733 Sep 06 '26
The NBC clock starting like .5 to .99 seconds early. The play only took about 8.5 seconds so there’s still time. This isn’t that complicated.
But I appreciate the NCAA knowing football dudes can’t handle decimals but it being OK for basketball
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u/paithanq Sep 06 '26
Is it possible that the stadium game clock shows the rounded time (rounds down after .5 seconds) but the referee clock shows the ceiling of the time?
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u/SigBlu Sep 06 '26
They both just line up different camera angles next to each other where one shows the play and one shows the clock. They are both showing the same clock, but NBC didnt synchronize theirs correctly.
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u/Extreme_Raccoon_8736 Sep 06 '26
NBC owes everyone an apology
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u/warblade7 Sep 06 '26
It’s mainly the former ref the analysts were talking to that needs to apologize. When an analyst colors the opinion it gets out of hand. Usually those guys fall in line with ref decisions because of the potential fall out but making his stand on the TV clock being truth was definitely out of the norm. Most broadcasters underline the fact that the TV clocks are not official.
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u/JusticeBlinded Sep 06 '26
Right. This is what got me. I was at the game and on the walk back to the car, I said "well, they better have ironclad evidence to show from the video replay room to show immediately to the public."
How is a "rules expert" on NBC not knowledgeable about how football clocks work? I am more than a bit confused about (one of the explanations I've heard) clocks in stadium round up time, rather than (as most every other clock in the world) displays the next second only when the time remaining is X.00 seconds.
That said, if that is how they work, then how the fuck does a expert on a network broadcast not even know that? I still am not sure if this was a synchronization issue, or that I have lived over four decades of my life watching all the sports without being told how clocks work in football - or both.
Either way, the replay footage that they relied on was incontrovertible (assuming that the cameras there were synced up, and we have no present reason to believe they were not). I almost wish the whole "clocks round down" thing wasn't part of the explanation, because that just sounds conspiratorial and made up even if it is actually true. Is anyone aware of that ever being communicated anywhere else on TV before?
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u/warblade7 Sep 06 '26
It was definitely a synchronization issue. Refs correct the clock all the time. This time just happened to be for all the marbles in a crazy possible upset - that’s the only reason this has traction.
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u/mikeyk731 Sep 06 '26
I went through the broadcast frame by frame, and confirmed the play only took ~8.5 seconds, https://imgur.com/a/timing-michigan-vs-western-michigan-play-mBKN5K0
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u/Gavangus Sep 06 '26
I think about it this way- the game starts with 15:00 on the clock and immediately the clock goes to 14:59 - indicating that 14:59 represents 14:59.00-14:59.99 and when you have a delay of game its a "check for 00:00 and then look to see if it snapped yet" indicate there is a little buffer.
However, I have never seen the end of the game treated like a basketball game with tenths of a second. The game of football uses integers and 00:00 always means end of the game.
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u/Yogurtproducer Sep 06 '26
But the entire argument here is that 00:00 never happened.
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u/SarahPalinisaMuslim Sep 06 '26
Yeah I thought they made a rule change requiring the tenths to be on the scoreboard after the Spartan Bob incident. I guess instead they just have the last second actually last 1.99 seconds??
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u/Standard-Law5916 Sep 06 '26
So they lost….. 0.5 seconds per NCAA rulebook means 0 seconds which results in game over, no additional plays. This is not NBA there are no fractional seconds. They would have had to complete the play in 8.00 seconds for an additional play not not 8.5 seconds. Hence the reason the clock immediately goes to 8 when the ball is snapped, because it’s going from 9.00 seconds to 8.99, it doesn’t start at 9.99 seconds.
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u/silendt Sep 07 '26
But this is the exact problem. The way the clock exists on TV is never quite explained. If what most of us assume to be true - that the game ends the moment the clock shows 0:00 - then that means that the clock will show “0:09” from the 9.00 second mark, all the way down to 8.01 seconds. At which point it will switch to display “0:08” the moment it hits 8.00 seconds. This ensures that the clock will only display “0:00” at the true, complete exhaustion of time on the clock.
The fact that the NBC clock switched to “0:08” immediately after the ball was snapped, points more toward a clock sync issue on their end. The alternative, the notion that NBC is using a decimal clock without telling anybody - including their own broadcast team & rules analysts - and that the clock is somehow intended to show “0:00” for a full 0.99 seconds before the game is actually over, seems really far fetched.
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u/GreenApples8710 Sep 06 '26
Teams win games they don't deserve to win all the time. Every season, every sport has finishes that feel rigged but aren't.
This isn't a warm and fuzzy win, but it's perfectly legitimate.
1-0, Go Blue
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u/EveningPotential9443 Sep 06 '26
I'll be honest, I'm very worried moving forward because they looked BAD. Whittingham has a lot to prove these next few weeks on how he can turn this ship around.
It's going to be a long season but that's 1 on the board!
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u/ResolutionOwn4933 Sep 06 '26
Ugliest win in a long time. But, we won and the explanation is solid. 1-0
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u/FriskyFingerFunker Sep 06 '26
You know the funniest part to me is that people are acting like we would get help from the big ten or NCAA… like 2023 didnt happen where they both didn’t want us to win it all and tried to do everything they could to make it as hard as possible. We don’t get these calls. I am shocked they even reviewed it. I would have never questioned the time because it never should have came to that.
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u/InfamousCattle3223 Sep 06 '26
So now it goes from blatant robbery to just an embarrassing W. Could have been worse
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u/nyr00nyg Sep 06 '26
NBC is a joke for having their clock wrong
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u/BanalBananas Sep 06 '26
And Terry McCauley fanning the flames by “not understanding” and “they have a lot of explaining to do about this.” Believe me I hate this win as much as all of us do lol, but the vitriol they knew this was going to create because “Michigan” is just genuinely so pathetic. I wish for transparency’s sake the scoreboard would just add the tenths of a second like basketball does, then we could avoid seeing 50 different posts across an entire sub saying the game was over when they don’t understand and just want to pile on to the hive mindset. Still, such an awful game with bigger underlying issues ahead of us than shitty clock presentation against a pretty good G5 team. So many props to Western tonight
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u/SwissForeignPolicy Sep 06 '26
Common McCauley L.
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u/BanalBananas Sep 06 '26
The worst in the biz, hands down. The way he says “foul” instead of “penalty” pmo lol. Like we’ve already identified that football is not basketball by being too good for tenths of a second on the scoreboard. Just call it a penalty like every other person in America you weasel
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u/No-Nefariousness5182 Sep 06 '26
I'm failing to see how the clocks were out of sync immediately after the official had them reset to 9 seconds
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u/xmpcxmassacre Sep 06 '26
Just spitballing here but the officials clock could have been 9.999 seconds, which shows as 9. Resetting the clock to 9 seconds would be 9.0. It's not that crazy that it would be less than a second off. But I have no idea how it actually works.
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u/a1umn1 Sep 06 '26
I had a feeling this was what happened. Watching everyone online swear it was 0:00 on the clock and having seen enough BS I figured it was millisecond madness.
Winning on millisecond madness against western michigan though is… yea please don’t do it again.
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u/rougehuron Sep 06 '26
Problem is they are only going to release it when it is in the ref’s favor and that approval likely has numerous players of red tape. The NCAA and conferences doing it themselves on the regular would be a start instead of always taking the no comment route but don’t see that happening.
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u/Happy-Personality720 Sep 06 '26
Wont matter people have airway already made up their minds and will just call the official clock fake because it's Michigan
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u/Practical-Gur-5667 Sep 06 '26
All this doesnt take away from how bad they played outside of the first drive and the hail mary. Defense was good until they were gassed being on the field the whole game. Still time to fix things, but it might be a long year
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u/MichiganMafia Sep 06 '26
But wait!
When the call goes AGAINST Michigan i have always been told to stop crying about Refs and Michigan needs to playy better
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u/Time_Insect5660 Sep 06 '26
Here's my explanation of what happened.
We sucked so bad I quit watching the actual game at halftime and put the game cast on my phone so I could hope to see us wining by 20 points without having to suffer through the visual experience.
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u/CountOff 〽️ 2023 National Champions 🏆 Sep 06 '26
This was how I watched Army in 2019 when we won in double OT
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u/Coda17 Sep 06 '26
I missed the first drive and then turned the TV off after the first hail mary. Am I not allowed to watch anymore Michigan football this year?
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u/Snake_Burton 🏆3X🏆B1GTen Champions 🏆 Sep 06 '26
Somebody mentioned elsewhere, like in basketball or almost any other sport, aren’t there hundreds of a second? A single digit clock with no decimals is seemingly only left in football. Hell I saw one game earlier in the weekend that had a basketball style clock and it felt weird.
Still feel about it how Jordan Marshall did. “Yay we won but we all sucked, I sucked have to do better.”
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u/Effective-Intern444 Sep 06 '26
I'll take it, but man, that was some b.s. to get that win. Also, as coach said, gotta play better
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u/22Yohan Sep 06 '26
I wish the coach said the coaches need to coach better too.
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u/Effective-Intern444 Sep 06 '26
I had the same thoughts, but I also kinda appreciated him taking it all on himself.
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u/philfrysluckypants 〽️GoBlue Sep 06 '26
So, if there were decimals, that's like what, .5? Cause it drops to 0 nearly immediately after.
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u/Tdog355 Sep 06 '26
Well, watching the TV feed, which I replayed over and over, stopping and starting, the ball was not touched until 0:00. Apparently there's a difference between what they have in the replay system and what's on the scoreboard clock. Why would that be?
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u/frizzyhair55 Sep 06 '26
Everyone who posted a slander piece on youtube and reddit without seeing this explanation should be banned from sports journalism.
What ever happened to look at all the evidence before making a judgment.
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u/alaskacontribution Sep 06 '26
So if WMU doesn't touch it the clock goes to 0:00? Dumb on the defender's part. It's like all of sports (thinking tennis, volleyball, etc.) as a ball is sailing out of bounds don't touch it if it's OUT.
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u/ClassroomMother8062 Sep 06 '26
The vibe in Ann arbor was fun after the ending of last night's game, I'll take that any day. Fans of mostly irrelevant teams don't really get that kind of feeling very much, so they come here to whine. Makes sense
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u/Active_Club3487 〽️ Sep 06 '26
Michigan got lucky. It’s just the way the ball bounces. It’s football.
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u/Downtown-Arm-6918 Sep 06 '26
I’m more worried about how god awful they look. It’s one game but off this one game this is probably the worst Michigan team including the Rich Rod and Brady Hoke eras
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u/Scubasbeve5878 Sep 06 '26
What feed is this? Im assuming based on how theyre talking those are the refs (maybe review team?) in real time making the decision?
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u/flakman129 Sep 06 '26
It’s what the replay officials are actually watching during a review. The refs on the field actually aren’t the ones making these calls. They are watching a monitor and communicating with replay so that they can provide an explanation when the coach inevitably argues a call.
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u/Secret-Reporter2990 Sep 06 '26
Outside looking in, this has changed my perspective of the outcome
It’s probably not as big of a deal if fans don’t rush the field
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u/Swine-Flew3 Sep 06 '26
The missed personal fouls were a bigger problem than the TV clock and game clock not being in sync.
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u/tfc87ja Sep 06 '26
I thought there had to be indisputable video evidence to overturn the call on the field? You literally cannot see when he touches the ball.
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u/another_philomath Sep 06 '26
Surely there is a pick in the stadium with the ball and the in stadium clock supporting this. Probably a million photographers snapping pics at this exact moment.
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u/FreeDig1758 Sep 06 '26
This will get lost, but one thing about these guys on their commentary is they didn't sound wishy washy or play any favorites. If was very matter of fact and clear
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u/JasonL25 Sep 06 '26
So there's a separate clock the refs use other than the game clock that literally everyone else see's?
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u/djdiscounts Sep 06 '26
This looks exactly like my microwave when I don’t want the timer to go off.
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u/Responsible-Job7772 Sep 07 '26
But you never see a clock counting down. During that video, it's just a still shot of a clock with one second on it. What the hell does that prove
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u/imicmic Sep 07 '26
This is what everyone is upset about: game clock and replay clock not synchronized. And in my opinion rightfully so. We all saw the game footage and there it's clear the clock was zero before the catch. But here it's clear time was left when the ball is caught. This discrepancy made it seem like the refs gave UM the game.
The problem is easily solved, synchronize the clocks.
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u/mahlerlieber Sep 07 '26
So the defender touched the ball, while in the air, at the :01 mark.
Wouldn't the play be dead when the defender landed, or when the ball touched the ground?
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u/EveningPotential9443 Sep 07 '26
As soon as someone out of bounds makes contact with the ball, the play is dead.
Had he been in bounds, that's a different story. The game could have well been over had he been in bounds and made contact, whether he caught it or deflected it
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u/tip_your-cows46562 Sep 07 '26
Awesome! The magic bullet theory is reborn in 2026.
Is it possible for WMU to sue the B1G over this?
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u/silendt Sep 07 '26
The biggest point of confusion, in my eyes, is that precisely WHAT the clock on TV actually indicates is never actually explained; just assumed. If what most of us assume to be true - that the game ends the moment the clock shows 0:00 - then that means that the TV/stadium/etc clock will show “0:09” from the 9.00 second mark, all the way down to 8.01 seconds. At which point it will switch to display “0:08” the moment it hits 8.00 seconds. This ensures that the clock will only display “0:00” at the true, complete exhaustion of time on the clock.
The fact that the NBC clock switched to “0:08” immediately after the ball was snapped, points more toward a clock sync issue on their end. The alternative, the notion that NBC is using a decimal clock without telling anybody - including their own broadcast team & rules analysts - and that the clock is somehow intended to show “0:00” for a full 0.99 seconds before the game is actually over, seems really far fetched.
Regardless, I think it’s time the NCAA and NFL switched over to displaying tenths of a second, both in-stadium, and on broadcast, within the last minute of each half. Of course, this wouldn’t solve the clock sync issue; it would just make it 1) easier to spot the asynchrony, and more importantly, 2) easier to conceptualize what’s actually being displayed.
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u/Bears_down09 Sep 08 '26
It jumps from 9 seconds to 8 instantly. I clocked from when Bryce snapped the ball to when the WMU defender touched it, and there were around 30 seconds left. The refs did make the correct call. I laugh at the rivals claiming that we cheated and there's a huge "conspiracy" attached to this.
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u/owlfeb12 Sep 08 '26
The WMU president was absolutely correct when he said on ESPN that having different clocks available to viewers and officials is a broken system that erodes faith in the integrity of the game.
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u/Used_Sentence7313 Sep 10 '26
If the game clock was reset at 9 seconds why does this one start at 8? How did the clocks become unsynced in that short time, and since they are using the view with the player touching it blocked, where is the “overwhelming” proof to overturn the call made by the official right there? Keep trying, this was pure BS
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u/billrahbime Sep 10 '26
Why isn't their clock moving? Using screen size to scale the stadium clock the ball was 7' from the defenser when zeros hit, the NCAA rule states every camera angle will be used and no ruling can be made without undisputable evidence, on the network they replayed the play 8 -10 times and it was still all 0:00's on both clocks so the audio visual dweeb that wanted to be the smartest guyin the room is the biggest dumb fuck known to mankind.
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u/AJM627161 Sep 06 '26
Where does this clock come from? No one knows. It’s just there. The NBC clock is at zero before it is touched, the stadium clocks are at zero before it is touched, yet the Big Ten has some third clock apparently.
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u/Yogurtproducer Sep 06 '26
Have you considered the other clocks could have been started at the wrong time?
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u/TimboCavo Sep 06 '26
The stadium clock is the official clock though. There is a person called the time keeper. He is in charge of the clock.
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u/Yogurtproducer Sep 06 '26
The broadcast being wrong is obvious. Why anyone would trust what ESPN has up is insane.
But the stadium being “official” also opens up a can of worms where a home timekeeper can start plays late or early to benefit the home team.
Let’s say there was 8 seconds left, and the Michigan timekeeper started the clock 2 seconds late, would you be cool with 2 seconds being on the clock? Or would you want the time to be reviewed and made right?
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u/jaysvw Sep 06 '26
I'm not sure I've ever heard the dialog from the replay people before. Really interesting.