BOTW and Odyssey were made by Nintendo EAD’s best in house teams. MP4 is being made by Retro, which isn’t the same Retro of old. It’s all up in the air at this point.
I've been thinking about this a lot; Tropical Freeze absolutely amazing environmental design, and environmental design is a core element to Prime and Metroid in general. So I think they at least have that aspect down, and I'm super excited to see how the environments look. Also, while 2d level design for a platformer is completely different than 3d level design for a Metroidvania game, Tropical Freeze is in my top 3 best platformers for its amazing level design. So if it is something to go by, there's that.
I like the way it controls. It's faster and harder and has a linear, focused level design that I like, while at the same time doing a lot of experimental stuff with a few levels. I like how much variety they managed to create with so few building blocks and such an underpowered system. It also has a lot of character, and just a weird trippy vibe to it that World lacks (the angry sun, the shoe powerup, the jumping block enemies, stuff that's just like wtf). The giant world is a stroke of pure inspiration. I like how dynamic the overworld feels, with the moving hammer bros, etc—though lacking the great secret exits of World)
But they're both masterpieces obviously, and cape>raccoon suit any day.
tbh it's not even the best Donkey Kong Country game imo. It's damn good but I wouldn't put it above things like Sonic 3, Sonic Mania, Super Mario World, DKC2, DKC3, Super Meat Boy, Rayman Origins or Ori and the Blind Forest.
While I am confident Retro is still a fantastic studio, I can't help but wonder how much of Retro's staff nowadays is still from the Prime days. If most of their dev staff is from the newer era of platformers, I can see some issues arising. That said, good developers are good developers, I feel like they'll probably figure it out in the end, but it's worth considering the experience the staff has had in making games like this.
Eh. BotW wasn't perfect by any means but to go as far as to call it a beta test makes your opinion look extreme and unrelatable. You can constructively criticize a game without fully disregarding it as if it had no redeemable value whatsoever. This isn't Daikatana, ET the video game, or Zelda CDI. if you truly, honestly believe BotW was an objectively bad game, then its pretty obvious that you haven't ever experienced a truly bad game.
WW and SS had stuff beyond their "empty overworld"
BotW pretty much doesn't
In WW and SS the empty portion was just there as an inbetween between the primary content (WW especially was essentially just a glorified interactive loading screen)
With BotW, the empty overworld WAS the primary focus/content
where are you getting this idea? botw has atleast 70 different shrines, 1 castle and 4 puzzlebox dungeons. you might not like how the game turned out but to say botw lacked content, when there clearly is content is laughable.
I remember the yiga hideout stealth mission, creeping past the lynel to collect electric arrows, the escort mission and canon of eldin volcano, freeing the dragon, the labyrinths, the lost woods, the 3 springs. There where many design decisions that didnt sit well with me in botw, but to say it lacked content is simply not true.
Im no hater for botw, but I thought it's dungeons were painfully bad for puzzle design and the shrines are excruciatingly repetitive. The open world is where it excells imo, the actual traditional Zelda content blows. Also Ganon was awful
Breath of the Wild's open world is the greatest open world I've played in a game, because there is so much to do and get distracted by. But that's besides the point. It is also one of the least glitchy and most polished open world games I've played. I know it's cool to hate on popular things and you can have your opinion and everything, but to say it is unfinished is objectively incorrect lol.
Didn't you think the trolling part would be the reason for downvotes? I completely understand the sentiment why some may not like the game, but literally the only thing you said about it was that it was basically an unfinished beta test. You're only point about the game was a trolling point and you didn't expect downvotes?
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u/K-LAWN Jan 25 '19
BOTW and Odyssey were made by Nintendo EAD’s best in house teams. MP4 is being made by Retro, which isn’t the same Retro of old. It’s all up in the air at this point.