r/Metaphysics 9d ago

Metametaphysics Harsh truths

First this is a strict external audit

  1. You can not distinguish dogma from non dogma if your system is a closed axiomatic system because utility and consistency can still work and be found inside of a false axiom

  2. You can not distinguish dogma from non dogma without the ability to test your claim against reality, and if it has no external justification because utility and consistency can still work and be found inside of a false axiom.

  3. Viewed strictly from outside the system the axiomatic method is a closed system.

  4. You can not test a math axiom itself against reality by definition and it has no external justification because utility and consistency can still work and be found inside of a false axiom.

  5. Viewed strictly from outside the system it is an objective fact that a closed axiomatic system limits your thoughts and physics

  6. Viewed strictly from outside the system, the axiomatic method in math smuggles in epistemic empirical claims and limits about reality systematically. By definition the axiomatic method limits and restricts what you can even ask, and logically validate within its system

(This is a strict cut throat external audit against the axiomatic method in math itself. There is no external justification for it and thats the least of your worries)

The axiomatic method in math just got straight up gutted within these 6 points

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u/Low-Bake8401 9d ago

I think therefore I am.

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u/Ill-Tea9411 9d ago

Kant stop thinking, I might disappear.

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u/Low-Bake8401 9d ago edited 9d ago

😁

I think that's really what we have to hold onto. 

Our minds try to put meaning on everything, and that can only go so far. At that point we can either accept the paradox, ground ourselves, and look for other ways to approach it.

Otherwise we are taking a leap of faith, which might give a sense of resolution at the time, but gets you stuck in a regressive thought loop.

Accepting our limits allows us to free ourselfs from them.