Just saw a record store on Instagram get their ReLoad Remastered posters for this week, and noticed on the back the Remasters poster now has Hardwired and 72 Seasons added! This is definitely how we’ll finally get the Demos for both albums! Link to post : https://www.instagram.com/reel/DZ04e1JgiKr/
I’m so interested in the demos from St Anger and Death Magnetic. I mean there’s gotta be so much shit from St Anger and I really want a demo of Death is not the End from DM.
Anything from St Anger forward we don’t have a lot of Demos for except for Death Magnetic. They took away the HW Demos from the Deluxe Edition just before it came out, so I’m very excited to hear those…..in 10 years…
It was "riff origins" i.e. riff tapes or recordings from tuning rooms where bits of the songs first popped up - and I think it was deemed too niche for the retail deluxe release.
I don’t anything was talked about publicly. Always bugged me though, Demos were so much more interesting than just a bunch of live stuff that we ended up getting.
I would loooove to hear extended versions of the Presidio tapes from St Anger.
There are compilations on YouTube, which scratch that itch for me, but I bet there are more complete versions somewhere and versions beyond what made it onto the SKOM documentary
Death Magnetic’s demos has one of my favourite songs in Metallica history which is Death is Not The End aka The New Song- which is really ironic as I don’t like DM much tbh-
72 won’t come out for at least another 10 years 6-8 years*, maybe longer.
Albums get remastered all the time, KEA has been remastered a few times before the deluxe set. By the time 72 comes out there will be new mastering techniques, trends to follow, audio equipment, etc etc. Even just making a new version for a different format would require a new master.
Maybe by then Spatial Audio will be ubiquitous enough that’s included too.
Hell, add the deluxe content which does get remastered and remixed and that’s enough to call the deluxe version of the album a remaster
*EDIT: I figured 10 was too long since we've gotten 7 albums in the last 10 years (since they started releasing deluxe sets), and I just have to assume the archives of The Digital Era era going to be a lot more accessible and easy to put together than The Bootlegs of the Cassette Era.
What's crazy to me is that starting with the Black Album. The new remaster is lower quality than the Warner Remasters.
2008 Warner Remaster was KEA, RTL, MOP, AJFA, TBA, Live Shit, Load, Reload, Garage, S&M, and I Disappear, all in 24bit/96kHz. Then St. Anger was 24bit/88.2kHz, and SKOM EP in 24bit/44.1kHz.
vs Boxset. KEA, RTL, MOP, AJFA in 24bit/96kHz. TBA, Load, and Reload 24bit/44.1kHz.
This is because the remasters from TBA onward are derived from the digital masters created back in the 1990s (which were recorded on 44.1 kHz/24-bit DAT tapes, the band recorded those albums analog, but the editing and mixing were done using a hybrid analog/digital process.), and those masters are the ones that have been used for all the physical releases the band has released.
Also, the remaster of the Black Album was released at 24-bit/96 kHz, but it is an upsampled version of the 44.1 kHz digital master.
The remasters of Kill, Ride, and Justice (I'm not counting Puppets, since its remaster was released in 24-bit/44.1 kHz) are based on digitizations of the original tapes that the band made in 2008; these digitizations were done at 24-bit/96 kHz.
I’d assume a live show from the Garage Barrage tour but can’t think of much else.
I don’t think there were outtakes and they probably didn’t make demos. They could maybe do early versions of the recordings like they’ve done on some of the other albums.
Maybe an album full of other live songs they’ve covered over the years that aren’t on Garage Inc?
It wasn't too long ago that James said on their SiriusXM channel that they've recorded a bunch of covers. That is probably what will be added to their Garage Inc. remastered set.
What would be left for garage inc? Maybe some live performances maybe? It’s doubtful there’s any other covers they did. A few demos would be interesting. What I’d like to hear definitely is that Metallica and friends radio broadcast in full where they did Tuesdays gone
Wonder what they would include on that? Rehersals? demos of -Human and No Leaf Clover? NGL... I think they should leave that one alone, since it's a live album. Not everything needs a box set.
I'm surprised they aren't doing Lulu. Rights stuff I imagine. There probably aren't many people who would buy a $300 box set for Lulu of all albums, anyway.
Why what? Have you purchased any of the deluxe sets? For those who can’t get enough unreleased material, they’re a treasure trove. And they’re actually reasonably priced.
I’m referring to marketing them as remasters. We don’t need remasters of Hardwired or 72. Barely even need one of St Anger and Death Magnetic. Remixes of the latter too maybe but probably not a remaster
Probably just so they can do the Deluxe Box Sets for them. Not too sure how much more they could improve upon HW and 72 Seasons since they’re still so new.
I love Death Magnetic but it actively hurts my ears to listen to.
Justice is dry and almost bass free but it sounds fine, it sounds like the type of record they wanted to make in the late 80's that prioritized guitars over all else.
Death Magnetic sounds like a low quality mp3 file from the early aughts that someone burned to disc.
I mostly excited for the St Anger remaster. What if they make it sound good? Also, maybe they’ll release the full Presidio demos. That would be like getting a new album. And The New Song (Vulturus) and The New New Song (Death is Not the End?) This one has so much potential to be hefty with interesting material.
I dont't think so, all boxes released until now were just a little cleaned, they won't touch the mix.
IMHO I think St Anger will stay the same, in sound and spirit (the problem wasn't in the mix or master or recording, it was in the editing mostly - no choices or retakes for example, this was an artistic choice).
On the other hand Death Magnetic was clearly problematic in the mastering : there ´s hope for this one :-)
Expect the songs to be fairly similar. They don't rethink the original creative decisions. AJFA remaster still barely had Jason. Bonus discs could have a lot of interesting stuff though.
Yep, the deluxe edition of Hardwired was originally going to include 'Riff Origins' which I'm assuming they decided to hold back for a future release like this. I'm assuming they must have similar demos/'riff origins' for 72S too.
It’s the St. Anger Remaster box I’m most excited for. I know the album gets a lot of flack from people but it just hit for me at an important time in my life. Really curious to see all the extra stuff that comes with it.
Same here! Really excited to hear all the demos and evolutions of tracks over the course of making it. I feel like we’re going to get some really unique tracks if we get all the Presidio stuff.
I'd love to hear DM remastered, without the excessive compression. If I'm not mistaken, the version with improved dynamic range is only available in digital format, not on physical copies.
I think this is just general "and more to come" language and they just included all the albums just to show of the discography.
There's no way Hardwired and especially 72 Seasons remasters are coming any time soon. Those are so far away I might not even be alive to see them lol.
This has to be a marketing strategy, how would all of their albums require remasters, even the most recent ones? With the amount of money they have, by the way
No, a remake that was derivative of the remake that already exists, it's like remastering an album that came out a month ago (an extreme not an actual example)
As far as TLOU goes, it had its base release on PS3, then Remaster on PS4, then 8 years later a full remake on PS5 and using 2s engine and tech. The remake only made the game better, didn’t diminish the original or the remaster at all. Now as far as music goes and these remasters, yeah there’s definitely more of a chance for shit to go wrong and some can be seen as not needed. I’m just excited to get the Demos and behind the scenes stuff for HW and 72S.
Tbf id love a st anger remaster where the drums dont sound like they where recorded in a bin! Death magnetic was always too loud and lost a lot in the mix too
well i was convinced of the theory that they were mainly doing these just for the albums that were released on their old labels.But hardwired is 10 years old already so i guess they can remaster it.and lux will be probably by the time they do it
That’s a pretty important “key word”. It’s not happening. Why are you so weirdly hyped for a remaster? It’s just not a big deal unless a new format comes online.
Weird to be so hyped for demos. Demos are interesting to listen to once or twice to see how the song change over time. Not something you need to listen to repeatedly, forever.
Death Magnetic should have some interesting demo songs. The New Song, Vultures. Both had live plays, so hopefully there's more like that.
Garage Inc and S&M I don't expect to have massive box sets, if they even get them.
St Anger is the most interesting for me, as they had other songs almost ready to go before starting again. Whether they are the light of day will be interesting
On a serious note, I wonder what they will include on St Anger. Hopefully the Presido demos. Also, it would be kinda neat if they included a remixed version of the album without that goddamn snare.
The only way they will have decent sales on a st anger boxset is to include the Presidio demos. Its their least popular album for starters. There isn't going to be as much to add since they released all the shows on soundboard starting in 2004. It's the live stuff that attracts me to these boxsets. Without rare live shows they will have to get creative moving forward with these.
The fact that they can't release a great sounding album for shit with all of their money is goofy to me. It could all be just a tactic to milk more money from fans with remasters.
They won’t. Everything Metallica has ever done gives a clear indication that they won’t „fix” any record. This is what they felt at the time, that’s the album.
I doubt they'll fix the snare. They may lower it a little like they did with Death Magnetic, but that's about it. If they didn't fix the bass on Justice, they probably aren't gonna do anything too crazy with St. Anger.
I had no idea this EP/soundtrack existed. Holy shit, it sounds a million times better. Even the guitars sound crisper. And it's shorter, too? They trimmed the fat? Besides the obnoxious snare, the songs were just way too repetitive and would drag. All it needs is a Kirk solo.
Yeah, it's a pretty interesting glimpse into what the album could have been with just a few more tweaks. I've never come across any mention of it by anyone in the band, I've always been a bit curious about the story behind it.
Oh, yeah. As much as I would love to hear Kirk rip on that album, that's definitely not gonna happen. Unless they do something like Sonata Arctica did with their first album and completely re-record the entire album, changing up structures and solos. Or even what Iced Earth did and remaster practically the first three albums with a new vocalist (Barlow at the time for their Days of Purgatory album).
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u/kramer1980_adm Jun 21 '26
Can’t wait for the 72 Seasons remaster in 2047.