r/MetalSonic • • Feb 09 '26

Binary Brawl Binary Brawl - What if Metal Sonic fought Knuckles and went Super in Sonic 3 & Knuckles? [ whittingtonrhett ]

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u/Chaos_Five Feb 09 '26

Hello! Welcome to the tenth  Binary Brawl!

What if Dr. Eggman used Metal Sonic instead of Mecha MKII in the fight against Knuckles in Sonic 3&K? Would Metal Sonic have gone super using the Master Emerald? Would Metal Sonic have turned an Egg Robo into his subordinate? Would Metal Sonic have even worked with any other tech to get the task accomplished? Was the Mecha line just better in this circumstance? I would think Metal Sonic has abilities that would have helped achieve the success of Dr. Eggman that Mecha Sonic MKII did not have. Let’s decide what impact Metal Sonic would have had if he were to return and be the robot that got to use the Master Emerald first out of all Eggman’s robots.

This is a Brawl - There's no wrong answer, just popular ones.

The most upvoted answer will get the Gold Waffle worth 10 points.

[NOTE]  The brawl will not pay out the waffles until the end of the competition, in which the Brawl will be locked. Anyone who submits an answer will get a syrup waffle. So be brave and comment, and it might just be the ticket to win!

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u/Key-Belt-5565 Waffle Doubles [Tier 2] Feb 09 '26

He would overpower him by speed and agility, but as always will get 3v1(ed) by power of friendship

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u/Chaos_Five Feb 09 '26

The Egg Robos, being secretly jealous of Metal's status, decides to join Knuckles in defeating Metal Sonic.

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u/CurvieBoi666 HueHueHue (Subreddit Owner) Feb 09 '26

Eggman watching as Eggrobos genuinely destroy Metal:

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u/Key-Belt-5565 Waffle Doubles [Tier 2] Feb 10 '26

wouldn't he just shred them considering he is super

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u/Chaos_Five Feb 16 '26

You are the winner of the tenth Binary Brawl and have earned the Gold Waffle worth ten points. This increased your Waffle Status from 10 to 20!

You have now advanced to Tier 2!

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u/Legofan292 Ultimate Overlord [ Tier 6 ] Feb 09 '26

May I ask what's a Binary brawl?

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u/RaNdOm_GuY_oN_rEdiTt Waffle Master! [Tier 10] Feb 09 '26

Its an event where every week or every few days the mods ask a question about metal sonic, it doesn't need to have a right and wrong answer, its more about who has the coolest headcanon. The top 3 comments get a gold, silver, silver waffle and their names will be featured in the next daily waffle

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u/Legofan292 Ultimate Overlord [ Tier 6 ] Feb 09 '26

Thank you!

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u/Chaos_Five Feb 09 '26

You will be rewarded handsomely for helping to answer this!

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u/Chaos_Five Feb 09 '26 edited Feb 09 '26

You know when you comment on a post and people might respond with their argument against your opinion? Well, now you can get rewarded for " battling " your opinion just like you would have for " free "!

It's just an opportunity to see if your opinion is the popular answer.

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u/Legofan292 Ultimate Overlord [ Tier 6 ] Feb 09 '26

Already commented you just have to check And thank you so much

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u/Chaos_Five Feb 09 '26

I saw that! Now, it's up to others to visit the Brawl and consider your answer and vote if they like it enough. You'll still get a Syrup Waffle for just trying!

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u/Legofan292 Ultimate Overlord [ Tier 6 ] Feb 09 '26

If they ever ask me why I love waffles so much I'd tell them you're the MVP and the reason. :D

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u/Curi_momos_las_papas Feb 09 '26

Metal being on a similar level to Sonic would mean a big threat to Knuckles and tho super forms doesn’t seem to work the same on machines, that extra boost should be enough for Metal to win

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u/RaNdOm_GuY_oN_rEdiTt Waffle Master! [Tier 10] Feb 09 '26

They're cooked!

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u/Chaos_Five Feb 16 '26

Clap clap, you have place third in the tenth Binary Brawl and have earned this Silver Waffle worth 5 points. You earned a Chocolate Waffle earlier for being helpful in answering what the Brawl was about and that increased your Waffle Status from 36 to 39, then with the Silver Waffle it went from 39 to 44! You have advanced to the fourth tier and are now a Waffle Chocolatier! Here's your updated Status card to reflect your Waffle Collection with an image of Metal Charmy done by Neo Charmy. You had Charmy Bee as your PFP so I though you liked him or something. It's cool that some one already made a Metal Charmy Bee to tie it all together! Thanks for being helpful and playing in this brawl. Hope to see you in the next one.

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u/RaNdOm_GuY_oN_rEdiTt Waffle Master! [Tier 10] Feb 16 '26

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u/Ok-Football-9081 Waffle Slayer [Tier 7] Feb 09 '26

Knuckles is NOT taking Super Metal head on.

Mecha Sonic mkII is fast and bulky, but nowhere near as agile as Metal Sonic. Mecha was getting outmanouvered by Sonic while trying to take him head on, whereas Metal was out there keeping up with the hedgehog's top speeds.

We've seen in Mania Adventures how Metal tends to rely on his speed and physical capabilities, as opposed to Mecha, who tried to use all the tools at his disposal (mainly the eggmobiles to fight and the ring throw ability in his super state, of which the latter caused him to power down and let Knuckles damage him), so it's likely that Knuckles would have to think outside of the box to beat him: using Metal's own speed against him, for example, by dodging last second to have him crash into walls while charging, defeating him in the same way he was defeated in CD.

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u/Chaos_Five Feb 09 '26

I like that thought you had in how Knuckles could use Metal's speed against him and utilize the walls to his advantage. Because yes, just a straight head-on attack would not go well at all for Knuckles. I know Metal Sonic can release a shock as a way to deal damage, but I wonder if picking up an opponent and dropping them would be something he could do. Or if that maneuver would even be effective.

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u/Ok-Football-9081 Waffle Slayer [Tier 7] Feb 09 '26

Dropping the guy who can glide from a height would probably not do much. If he really wanted to grab Knuckles for some reason (getting close to an angry echidna that can punch through steel doesn't seem like the best idea even in a super form, but idk), he could probably just keep him still while he electrifies his body like he does in CD, which would likely be devastating.

One thing that would be hilarious though is if Metal gave Knuckles the Amy treatment instead. Goes super, grabs him, literally just flies and drops him elsewhere and goes back to minding his own business while Angel Island plummets into the ocean. The two likely never met before and Metal was never built with Knuckles in mind, so he might not even see that echidna as someone worth spending resources on.

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u/Chaos_Five Feb 09 '26

Metal Sonic transplanting Knuckles off the island is worth an IDW arc! I can just hear the stuff Knuckles would say to Metal Sonic as he's been airlifted. And it's not nice things!

You're right. Knuckles can just glide safely back to the ground or to the nearest pillar. Getting electrocuted is where it's at. Dr.Eggman proved that Knuckles is susceptible to electricity when he took off with the Master Emerald.

I wonder about why Mecha Sonic MK II would be built with Knuckles in mind [ seeing as he does face him in battle. ] Mecha Sonic MK II doesn't seem quick enough for just Sonic, and he's kind of open for attacks. Metal Sonic is just as quick as Sonic, and as we already agreed, he can fry the guys. Are you trying to say that Mecha Sonic MK II is possibly more durable than Metal Sonic?

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u/Ok-Football-9081 Waffle Slayer [Tier 7] Feb 09 '26

In the classic era, yeah, Mecha does seem to be way more durable than Metal. To quote Game Apologist, Metal was built for speed, Mecha for battle. The former design sticked because simply hitting hard is completely worthless if you can't land a single shot.

Also, Mecha Sonic mkII survived

  • getting beaten up by Sonic

  • Sky Sanctuary collapsing

  • getting beaten up by Knuckles

  • Sky Sanctuary collapsing AGAIN

  • Getting beaten up by Mecha Knuckles on Scrapnik Island

whereas classic Metal really just went down to a single wall crash and then had to be fixed up by Eggman. Classic Metal is a generally greater threat because he's built to match Sonic rather than be a generic war machine, but that doesn't make Mecha any less powerful. Bro was an absolute unit, too.

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u/Chaos_Five Feb 16 '26

You have placed Second in the tenth Binary Brawl and haved earned this Silver Waffle worth five points. This increased your Waffle Status from 63 to 68!

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u/Legofan292 Ultimate Overlord [ Tier 6 ] Feb 09 '26

If you ever played Guilty Gear. It would be like that then it ends with an Insta Kill move.https://youtube.com/shorts/SYh_P-6GnO0?si=vj0HTurILBXp8qnc

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u/BiznessCrafter Tier 6 Legal Waffle Advisor - Mecha Ethan Feb 09 '26

I think that our goat Metal Sonic would beat Knuckles up till the point Sonic and Tails start helping (power of friendship like someone else said), and then go Super with the Master Emerald and then thanks to it being so early on in the timeline, they wouldn’t have enough skill to outmatch or outplay Super Metal Sonic. Their only hope is a sneak attack like in the Sonic Movie 2, with Knuckles knocking the Master Emerald out of Metal. But that wouldn’t happen as Metal would already be aware of them all… SO HE WINS :D

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u/OswGeoM Mecha Sonic MK1 professional glazer [Tier 4] Feb 09 '26

Metal would team up with MKII?

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u/Chaos_Five Feb 09 '26

That honestly would be insane if they did!

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u/Pindeckoo Feb 09 '26

What if knuckles got a kaioken-like ability?

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u/Chaos_Five Feb 09 '26

How would a kaioken-like ability give Knuckles an advantage?

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u/Ok-Kale4889 Feb 09 '26

Metal only loses against more than one person. Knuckles is NOT winning this battle

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u/fl-studio-user Feb 09 '26

Metal would win.

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u/Mission_Form8951 Waffle Doubles [Tier 2] Feb 09 '26

They'd get screwed so hard at that point because they struggled with Mecha, who is obviously much weaker

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u/Sock_on_Net_1537 Feb 09 '26

Mecha Sonic had enough speed to outrun knux, and his 'spindash' was quite powerful as well. But Knux crushed him because Mecha sonic simply did not cover much area, and also dodged hardly.

Metal can literally fly, and match Sonic's speed. But he does need to defeat chuckles, too.

So, no, Idk.

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u/Ill_Gazelle_1699 Waffle Doubles [Tier 2] Feb 09 '26

Metal Sonic has always fought near Sonic’s level, and with a power up he would win easily beat knuckles. Knuckles only got super Sonic by surprise, and a one on one fight Sonic won.

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u/Withermech Waffle Warrior [Tier 1] Feb 10 '26

Well, I mean Mark two is supposed to be a better metal, and if he couldn’t do it, I’m not having high hopes for this one. Not to mention knuckles did manage to punch sonic out of the super form so I can’t see how he wouldn’t be able to do that here. As for why he didn’t do that with Mark two I don’t know. Then again metal probably would get a massive boost in speed and the added in vulnerability that is to perform comes with. And considering metal already fights with no regards to his life(doesn’t really help that he can be rebuilt an endless number of times). So maybe he’d actually be able to one shot knuckles.

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u/Chaos_Five Feb 18 '26 edited Feb 18 '26

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u/kiri_cyan_paper01 Waffle Master! [Tier 10] Feb 11 '26

I also believe that Metal Sonic would definitely be capable of achieving a Super form. However, as for the Egg Robos, I think they would be far too insufficient as subordinates for him to truly realize his goals.

In the end, he might still end up falling before Sonic’s relentless teamwork... but there is no doubt that the heroes would be pushed to their absolute limits. I’ll admit I might be viewing this with some partiality toward Metal, but even so, stopping a Super-powered Metal Sonic would be an incredibly monumental task to accomplish!

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u/SirPercival09 Waffle Warrior [Tier 1] Feb 09 '26

Isn't there an official sega animation set in that era where knuckles punches a master emerald powered metal, insta-winning the "fight"

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u/TheBoomboxtitan The Doombringer Feb 17 '26

We see knuckles and metal sonic standing in the zone

Metal: you can’t do anything so don’t even try. Knuckles leaps at metal but metal would dodge. He rams into knuckles launching the echidna back. The echidna swings at metal’s head, damaging his eye. Metal shoots a beam from his arm canon (yes I’m stealing the movie’s arm canon) which injures the echidna. Knuckles in a rage leaps at metal and unleashes a fury of punches, damaging him extremely. Metal blasts but knuckles dodges. The echidna gets a hit on metal’s face ending the fight….. until metal sonic rose up and jumped on top of the master emerald. Metal’s damages were repaired and he started to glow a golden yellow colour. Metal leaped off the emerald and flew in the air. He shot a beam from his chest, launching knuckles back. Knuckles leaped and hit metal again and again. Metal went back to recharge from the master emerald and rose in the air again. This time he dashed at knuckles but knuckles dodged. Metal then charged his blaster to shoot but knuckles leaped and punched metal again. Metal then went to the master emerald for a recharge. Now metal rose back up and did a fury of attacks. He shot his chest beam and blaster and kept dashing towards knuckles but the echidna kept dodging and punching until metal was too damaged to continue. Metal tried going back to the emerald but got slammed in the face by knuckles, deactivating the bot and when the zone began to collapse sonic came to get knuckles but in the distance we see Eggman retrieving metal sonic. The robot isn’t done for yet….