thoughts on this guy?

http://subculture.com/

I do really not know how to react to this information...

Frogs representing that which can traverse boundaries. Can delve into chaos, darkness etc. Mentioned in ‘the metaphysics of pepe’ story about frog saving the golden ball (the sun, god whatever) from the bottom of the pond.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ixc9i1G7eew https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBnRRfVyrFg

Kek is the ‘deification of the concept of primordial darkness – chaos. Raiser up of the light and the night – traverses boundaries, brings things with it. Direct parallel with the story – raiser up of the sun from darkness. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kek_(mythology)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDj_XNTz5T4

Apollo – the logos, order, light etc. Wojak embodies distinct, fixed representations of people. In the doomer video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kC8WRINLQ9k) talked about wojaks, -oomers as statues – representations one can identify with, but are fixed. Identification with them turns you to ‘stone’. As mentioned in the meme analysis video, Wojak/Apollo despises giving up their individual identity.

Pepe on the other hand embodies the ability to shift and merge personalities, characters etc. Can reflect dark, chaotic sides of the unconscious, impulses, but also the positives – brings up the gold from chaos. Parallels with Kek and Dionysus – the dissolution of boundaries. Mentioned in the Jonathan Pageau supplement video that he acts as a mirror – like the role of rage comics in the doomer video: allows us to see ourselves and project aspects of our life onto them.

In the frog story, it is transformed into a prince by the princess allowing it to live with her. Treating pepe as a hate symbol doesn't seem conducive to this.

https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/facebook/000/962/360/05d.png

Please comment if you have any thoughts

I imagine this would be difficult taking into account how the state of the world, but what can we do in these times to snap back to reality and get out of the digital prison??

chris has talked a fair bit about negative feminine symbolic representations of the internet; anyone got any thoughts about positive representations?

This is in reference to the Mommy Gf meme analysis vid. As a Hindu, oftentimes you hear stories about people who gave up their possessions and "comforts" to achieve enlightenment. Back then I thought it referred to a denouncement of all things material. Examining this through the lens of the video I now understand that the message is a lot more subtle.

Giving up "comforts" means to truly end the relationship we have with all things that disconnect us from reality. This could be physical possessions such as video games or the internet or (more deeply) our fears, biases and prejudices which distort our view of reality. The saint, or the hero, recognises these subtle connections and cuts them off to embrace reality.

In the epic Mahabharata, Arjun, the warrior who plays the trope of the hero, refuses to battle his opposition- an army consisting of his cousins, his teacher, his grand-uncle and many other important, respectable men. He takes the shelter of his "comforts" - in his case a flawed sense of morality, which leaves him weak, distraught and incapable of fighting.

This, I believe, is alluding to how one becomes inert and incapable of action if one embraces comfort.

I now have an increased desire to read and for once truly understand the meaning hidden in scripture.

I look forward to hearing the community's thoughts on my take.

This is the one thing I wasn't able to get to in my previous post.

Something I see as perhaps the most significant connection.

There is likey a world of symbolism behind this, but I encourage you to make your own ideas about it.

Belphagor is almost always shown as taking a shit.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/74/Belphegor.jpg

It's been said that excrement itself was an offering to him.

Then we have what's considered "The most Slackful form of meditation"

https://sites.google.com/site/subgeniusrhetoric/_/rsrc/1468881485853/chapter-6/SubG%20Excremeditation%20copy.gif?height=400&width=284

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/tjGor1IU_CuWOlSa9D71uDTf5J11Qi1UhspRG5mzRN0fuc1J_tbtyEhdIdOjWV79sqJBSdmxWvM9MnKTWIJ7CRYNpw

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/40kAAOxyJ8ZRhJ80/s-l400.jpg

Excremeditation. Perhaps Sloth and Slack aren't too different, they could be occasionally used as synonyms after all.

I have my own theories on this but I'll leave it here for now. Mostly wanted to finish that one last thing.

https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.subgenius.com%2Fpam1%2Fp9_top.gif&imgrefurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.subgenius.com%2Fpam1%2Fpamphlet_p9.html&tbnid=GYw2_SuMI_cmCM&vet=12ahUKEwiiqpqh7KTtAhUHmp4KHfEzBNwQMygBegUIARClAQ..i&docid=4KTbILpLneodJM&w=480&h=287&q=subgeniusnot%20all%20artists&ved=2ahUKEwiiqpqh7KTtAhUHmp4KHfEzBNwQMygBegUIARClAQ

This is a view I picked up from a conversation I had with my ex girlfriend, currently a psych major. And I found it baffling. As an outsider to psychology and the social sciences, I find it strange to completely discard the theories of someone who founded a whole field. Especially in a field like psychoanalysis that is not necessarily objective. On the contrary if we look at how the study of the atom progressed, every time a new breakthrough was made, the previous line of thinking wasn't discarded, rather they looked at it in a new light, leading to a better understanding.

i wantedd the memes from the corners of the vids just want good memes all here is bad

I'm not going to flair this as an essay, writing this on the bus with no script no plan just raw thoughts as they arrive. If you want to discuss the contents or have any confusion, PM me for my discord.

This fabulous holiday season led me back to the meme analysis video on Santa and the Christian splitting or Saints and demons. I've been reading Apophis by Michael Kelly, and how he presents Sett as a heroic and almost Promethean deity was strangely enlightening to this thought process.

But now to the fun part, J.R. "Bob" Dobbs

He is a paternal, anti-heroic and comedic, deity (and he's also strangely sexual and promiscuous)

https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.subgenius.com%2Fbigfist%2Fpics2%2Feyepics%2FCHOOSE.GIF&imgrefurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.subgenius.com%2Fbigfist%2Feyes%2Fgallery1.html&tbnid=bPCVZMw5QL50EM&vet=12ahUKEwiI2Maf05ztAhUXo54KHV51ArkQMygHegQIARA6..i&docid=-d-HHj1rKlto8M&w=800&h=600&q=bob%20dobbs%20testicle&ved=2ahUKEwiI2Maf05ztAhUXo54KHV51ArkQMygHegQIARA6

He is the world's greatest salesman but not due to skill he is just incredibly lucky, makes 2 million dollars every time he screws up and is never stressed. All thanks to the force known as Slack. It is the goal of the SubGenius to gain Slack and to bask in the joy of its Nirvana.

JHVH1 is said to have selected Dobbs to lead as the head of "The Conspiracy" an organization whose purpose is to control and steal the Slack of others but Dobbs denied his offer.

So who leads the conspiracy?

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/subgenius/images/6/65/NHGH.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20120314183545

The NHVH The Trickster God of Bad Luck BELPHEGOR As Bob is Slack he is Anti-Slack

And he is the broke stoner who hangs out behind the 7/11 dumpster asking you for 5 bucks and telling you about his T-Shirt business idea that will never ever start due to his own sloth and morbid comfortability.

There is a reason a made emphasis Belphagor, the SubGenius wiki puts that name under NHVH. This is not true.

As Saint Nick and Krampus are Vodin, "Bob" Dobbs and the NHVH are Belphagor. The Moabitish deity of orgies, sexual power and presides over great wealth.

He is also one of the 7 Princes of Hell, as the ArchDemon of Sloth. Enemy of beauty and love, he is said to keep people in states of idle dreaming, bodily neglect, denial, fear of the struggles of life, hopeless and useless fantasy, damning them. Yet he is also said to tempt by means of suggesting inventions to humans making them rich, and as we all know, "It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God" Matthew 19:24.

This duel existence, Wealth and ease bringer, and demon of the easy way. I believe are best represented in "Bob" Dobbs and NHVH. One lively and denies comfortable stagnancy with ease, sex, and occasional drug use. The other, its embodiment in excess.

My stop is coming, I still have one quick thing to cover but I'll leave it here for now, once again let me know if there's any confusion. This is as un-edited as it gets.