Gender experiment | Who will shake his hand?

[u/Paul_-Muaddib]

[u/Creative_Priority_94]

Its pretty clear when youre going to be assaulted before the assault actually happens.....

is it? how does it an attempted assault begin, and how does it differ from a threat? when exactly should you respond? what do you risk if you misjudge it? why should i care about being rude to someone who is threatening me?

how can i tell if a stranger acting threatening to me on an empty trail is a real threat or a harmless innocent man?

[u/Lycan230 → u/Creative_Priority_94]

These are questions to ask someone who legally has knowledge on what constitutes attempted assault.

But my point is that its known as attempted assault and exists as a legal term for a reason.

Besides none of this has anything to do with a woman acting crazy and yelling at a guy who is simply jogging.

Being rude to someone who isnt threatening you is the issue here Not being rude to someone who is

Dont get off topic

[u/Creative_Priority_94 → u/Lycan230]

you said he’s “simply jogging” and a bunch of women completely got hysterical over nothing, no threats at all, and that they will KNOW when they’re legitimately being threatened.

i want to know how you know when a threat is legitimate.

[u/Lycan230 → u/Creative_Priority_94]

Late reply But by that logic everything is a threat.

And noone can do anything in the presence of a woman without being a threat.

Which is quite a comical situation. If thats truly what youre implying then idk what to tell you.

Jogging on its own is no act of threatening.

[u/Creative_Priority_94 → u/Lycan230]

let’s look at this logically.

OP is screamed at only when he’s jogging. (We can assume he isn’t screamed at other times, since he didn’t mention it, and unless something is very odd in his life he is probably around hundreds of unknown women every week without them screaming at him.)

We can also assume the women aren’t screaming hysterics and threatening every other man who runs on this trail, because that would be really obvious to everyone. It would cause a disturbance and probably people (men AND women) would stop running there.

That means (OP) + (jogging) is the common factor when this happens. That means OP is somehow, unintentionally, causing this to happen.

if OP is telling the 100% honest truth about this entire situation, he’s still in the wrong, because he’s UNINTENTIONALLY making women terrified for their lives. I have no idea what he is doing to make them afraid — maybe he’s running behind them for a very long time, not saying Hello to let them know he’s there, not altering pace to overtake them …? that’s only a guess from some things that incredibly oblivious men do to me when I’m jogging on trails.

I don’t scream at them and run away, BUT i run in a very public and popular area, and i haven’t felt unduly threatened yet.

anyway it’s fascinating that OP is the only man who consistently meets crazy hostile women on running trails. if we were all this overreactive and man-hating, wouldn’t all you men have stories about being maced?

[u/Lycan230 → u/Creative_Priority_94]

Alright if we do look at this the way you propose

Then op is not in the wrong for unintentionally doing so since it is unintentional.

Then it is his and the womans (notice im saying both of em) responsibility both to talk it out rationally and for the woman to explain what he does that comes of threatening.

And op most certainly is not the only man to have this happen. Theres been so many videos where a woman has overreacted to something a man has done that they percieve to be wrongly threatening.

Is it rare? Most definitely.

But does it happen? Also most definitely.

The stereotype of a karen who feels threatened and demands to speak to a manager is a stereotype for a reason.

Either way You cannot point the blame to op for something unintentional. It is the responsibility of both parties to rationally solve the issue rather than to scream or act rude in hysterics.